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Well well well Wetsounds.....

Well i have been tuning my set up in my boat i put 3 pair of the Wetsounds 6.5 in the boat with there Amp to push them. They are loud for sure but the highs hurt,and fall apart fast. When i get to a real good loud setting i find myself pulling all the MID and trebble. If not they sound real bad??? I just bought 6 Polk 6.5 MM 651UM. I sure hope it is not the Wetsounds Amp not having good clean power. What you guys think??? I have set up tons of radios and never seen this before? Any word on there Amps? I have there big amp pushing two 12" JL subs that sounds good. I did not like there subs i have two like new 10" subs if anyone wants? Used for about 1 hour....

Thank you Skydog

you need a eq for the horns if not they sound like shit..

They are not horns.

Thank you

which model do you have?

XS-650 l Wet Sounds 6.5 inch Coaxial

Well they say horn tweeter but they look just like a dome tweet. Not a true horn like there pro models.

Thank you

Yea i guess they sound ok.... but where i like to push them they will not go and still sound clear. I even crossed all most all the bass out to make sure it was not a power problem. Same out come....

Thank you Skydog

Thank u for help but have done every thing. Not happy with them so they are coming out Polks going in this weekend!

what kind of subs you talking about, if you have two 12w7 subs from jl ill take them, i have two 12 jl w7 subs in my boat with jl 1000/1v2 amp and art series precision power a600.2 running two sets of diamond audio hex 6 series components, with external crossovers, and its concernt sounding, you cant buy better or i would challenge someone to find me something that sounds equally as smooth clean and crisp thru out all range of volume. let me know about what kind of subs your referring to. i wouldnt run anything but jl

Originally Posted by Skydog

Well i have been tuning my set up in my boat i put 3 pair of the Wetsounds 6.5 in the boat with there Amp to push them. They are loud for sure but the highs hurt,and fall apart fast. When i get to a real good loud setting i find myself pulling all the MID and trebble. If not they sound real bad??? I just bought 6 Polk 6.5 MM 651UM. I sure hope it is not the Wetsounds Amp not having good clean power. What you guys think??? I have set up tons of radios and never seen this before? Any word on there Amps? I have there big amp pushing two 12" JL subs that sounds good. I did not like there subs i have two like new 10" subs if anyone wants? Used for about 1 hour....

Thank you Skydog

HAHA Yea i am running the JL for sure love them!!! It is wetsounds i dont like.

Thank you Skydog

Just a update Put all POLKS in WOW unreal i love my radio again!! Sorry wetsounds Not even close!!!!!

Skydog

Skydog, a friend told me about your post. I wish that you would have given us a call and let our tech guys walk you through some things. After reading your post, it is clear to me that the system was not set up properly. And unfortunately the speaker took the blame.

Remember that a speaker reproduces what it is fed. So if the speakers distorts, it is from the signal. Not the speaker itself. Too many times a speaker gets blamed for improper tuning or limited power etc. Since you have our SYN-4, it is clear that you have plenty of power. Our demo Tige has 4 pairs of XS-650 running off a single SYN-4 and it is un real how loud and clean the boat plays. Also, thousands and thousands of customers can’t be wrong when they have all installed these speakers and absolutely love them.

Machinehead1. I would have to completely disagree with everything you wrote. The settings and the amp MAKE a huge difference. A WORLD of a difference. Same thing as above, the speaker gets blamed. Too many times we have seen installer use too small of an amp to power our Pro audio tower speakers. They use the amp that came with the boat or an improper power rating. For instance our PRO 80 speakers need AT least 200 watts RMS. We run 400 watts RMS to our demo boat tower. That is a lot of power. When not running enough power, you wind up powering the horn but not as much on the mid bass, so you get a speaker that sounds harsh or more highs. But with proper power and the right tuning, these things rock and are super loud and super clean. I agree that you do need an EQ to truly balance such a high powered tower speaker which is why I designed our WS-420 eq that let’s you independently control the tuning of the tower separate from the in boats and also independently control the volume of the towers and separate volumes of the in boats.

We just released a completely new series of tower speakers called the Revolution that represents the most advanced tower speakers to date. These do not need any eq’ing to set up. So they are much easier to install as a DIY or an inexperienced installer. As we have seen this perception over and over so I designed the speakers to be easier to tune.

Skydog,

How did you start with your tuning? Was the head unit flat? Loudness off? Ipod or CD? Ipod eq set on flat? Is their an EQ? Was it flat? Our XS-650 speakers are built and voiced for marine. They have a crisp titanium tweeter to cut through the wind noise and engine noise. They also have a large motor structure to have a ton of mid bass punch. So when setting a speaker up, especially ours, you need to make sure everything is Flat. Then tune the gains from there. The high pass on the SYN-4 should have been on around 80 hz. The switch should be set to stereo. Also, the freq range button should be OUT. This button is out for X1 and in X10. Meaning that if you have high pass on 80hz and X1. It is 80 times 1 so 80. But if you have it on X10, it is 80 times 10 so 800hZ. This could have been pushed in by accident and then back out later? It has happened before. Source select should be on 2 ch or 4 ch and NOT 2 ch BB which is bass boost. So bass boost should have been off.

Also, you wrote “I have wired four speakers at 4 ohms to the amp that should be a great match. It was not so i dropped the ohms to 2 and pushed 200RMS to the speakers better but still way to brite and very harsh. The tower speakers (all they are is the XS-650 in a cann) i hooked them up after i found i did not like how the four sounded but thought i would try. I put them on the back channel of the amp brigged.(did at 4ohms but did not sound as good up top) Then the front i have 2ohm load on the left front channel and on the right front channel”

That is is not how it works and I see some issues there. When you have an amp like the SYN-4 that does 125x4 at 4 ohms, that amp will produce 125 watts to each of those FOUR 4 ohm speakers (2 pairs). The SYN-4 does 200x4 at 2 ohms. The only way to drop the amp to a 2 ohm load is to double the amount of 4 ohm speakers to EIGHT (4 pairs) and wire them in parallel. The amp would then see a 2 ohm load and produce 200x4 BUT it has to split the power to each speaker. So you net 100 watts to each speaker. So if you took the 2 pairs and put them in parallel to just 2 of the channels, you actually put 100 watts to each speaker and not 200. Also, you cannot bridge the back channel of the SYN-4 with two 4 ohm tower speakers. The SYN-4 can run in 2 ch mode bridged for 400x2 and this is how we run it to our tower speakers like the PRO 80 and PRO 485. And it could do 2 pairs of in boats on chs 1-2 and a sub bridge at 4 ohms on 3-4. But it can not do a pair bridged as you described. If you paralleled the two tower speakers together, it would be a 2 ohm load. Then bridged those on the back channels, that amp would see a 2 ohm mono load bridged which is too low of an impedance and will cause it to go into protection. It would do over 800 watts for a short period of time but then cut out.

So sounds like there was so wiring issues and tuning issues and I wish we could have helped you work through them. The Polk is a nice speaker. So I am glad you are happy. They have a soft dome tweeter. So maybe you did not change a thing on the tuning and they worked for you because whatever settings you had made our titanium tweeter too much but a soft dome tweeter that is already lower, adding some boost did not put it over the edge. Or maybe in the process, you wound up wiring them correctly? Or changed some of the settings.

We are here to help. You can call our tech support at 877-938-7757. And if you ever need anything feel free to shoot me an email, I am happy to help. twhite@wetsounds.com

Tim
President
Wet Sounds