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The anatomy of an oil filter: Part One

Originally Posted by e85hater

What about running a centrifical oil strainer???

This pipe we are machining right now is a centrifugal particulate ejector. This 10" stainless pipe has an airflow that swirls through it. The outlet is a high tolerence specific shape that lets the particulate out and the air keeps going.

Just thought it was interesting.

Originally Posted by '78 Crusader

???

Originally Posted by Sleeper CP

Wix is a good filter.


S CP

What more do you want??????

If you want to spend more then do so, but for your application the wix is fine.


S CP

Originally Posted by gn7

Geez he is such a whiner

Here Jon, allow me to help you out.

Happy now are ya Bob?

gn, that was so-so. would actually be better if there was an abcdefgh cross reference. . i wanna see the realdealsleeper charts and graphs that'll keep it all going for another 15-20 pages.
happy? well, i'm glad to be getting over this damn cold. other than that, for happiness factor, check back in about 6 weeks...

does anyone know who manufactures mercruiser filters???

Originally Posted by e85hater

Cool. We used a oil strainer in an engine room for steam turbines. The old big rigs used a lubafiner deal. There still is maintenance required.

the large turbine/generators i worked around for 37 years all had multiple methods. multiple screens, polishers, and cuno filters in the main reservoir, then a "bowser" unit with fine screens, dozens of fine micron bags, and more cuno's. and of course, once a week we hooked up the portable centrifuge to the main reservoir for 24 hours. you just don't mess around with oil cleanliness on those things - they run pretty much continuously for 18-24 months. oil related issues are unnacceptable.

Originally Posted by Sleeper CP

What more do you want??????

If you want to spend more then do so, but for your application the wix is fine.


S CP

My bad, I didnt see your reply. Thanks!!!

Originally Posted by bp298

.....the large turbine/generators i worked around for 37 years all had multiple methods. multiple screens, polishers, and cuno filters in the main reservoir, then a "bowser" unit with fine screens, dozens of fine micron bags, and more cuno's. and of course, once a week we hooked up the portable centrifuge to the main reservoir for 24 hours. you just don't mess around with oil cleanliness on those things - they run pretty much continuously for 18-24 months. oil related issues are unnacceptable.

Yup, just consulted on a new turbine-gen unit that hadn't had the filters installed after they pull the construction centrifuge off (you know, the one that starts with chicken wire and then works it's way down to reasonable filter size)... Took out 3 bearings, all tilt pad from the HP & HP-IP sections....roughly $1m down the tubes....

Originally Posted by David 519

Yup, just consulted on a new turbine-gen unit that hadn't had the filters installed after they pull the construction centrifuge off (you know, the one that starts with chicken wire and then works it's way down to reasonable filter size)... Took out 3 bearings, all tilt pad from the HP & HP-IP sections....roughly $1m down the tubes....

Thats what happens when you don't use a quality oil like VR1

Originally Posted by David 519

Yup, just consulted on a new turbine-gen unit that hadn't had the filters installed after they pull the construction centrifuge off (you know, the one that starts with chicken wire and then works it's way down to reasonable filter size)... Took out 3 bearings, all tilt pad from the HP & HP-IP sections....roughly $1m down the tubes....

Those are what we consider "good customers"

Originally Posted by gn7

Thats what happens when you don't use a quality oil like VR1

gn7 you into the shine all ready this is an oil filter thread , get your oil kicks in on another thread

Originally Posted by Canuc

gn7 you into the shine all ready this is an oil filter thread , get your oil kicks in on another thread

Yeah I know. But David was having problems with rather large turbine due to crud and I thought I would just let him know that a really really good mineral oil doesn't require all that filtering, and may have saved the thing. Million plus in damage that a 3 dollar quart of oil might a averted.
Whats the saying? Pay now, or pay me later?

yeah , sounds like they payed a "Consultant" to tell them their turbine is nfg , but sounds like somebody forgot to put the dual ph8a's on so where does the oil debate come in .... school me maybe a link or a pic or ???

Originally Posted by David 519

Yup, just consulted on a new turbine-gen unit that hadn't had the filters installed after they pull the construction centrifuge off (you know, the one that starts with chicken wire and then works it's way down to reasonable filter size)... Took out 3 bearings, all tilt pad from the HP & HP-IP sections....roughly $1m down the tubes....

brilliant. but with some of the nimrods today, not surprising.

Originally Posted by gn7

Thats what happens when you don't use a quality oil like VR1

roflmao... you are a laff riot sometimes...

one of our routines during outages was to pump the reservoir to the storage tank. pull all the screens and filters for cleaning. then get 2 or 3 guys in sealed suits down in the reservoir and clean. rags, and anything else, was counted going in and counted coming out. suits were inspected for any rips/tears, and nobody tore anything because they would have to go back in and find it. then a final inspection before the cover went back on. same thing with bowsers, but those were small enough that they could be completely inspected before going back together. way way way back in the day, there were industry events where idiots left rags in lines or reservoirs with very bad results later on (not where i worked). a lot of effort was put into controlling access to areas, as well as anything taken into those places. from what david's describing, people are much smarter today than they were 30 years ago, and don't need to have any knowledge of industry lessons learned over the decades...

after 6 or 10 years, we'd actually change oil. if you took a sample after a year or two of continuous running, it looked like it just came out of the can. and if i told ya what it was, your jaw might drop (maybe not). but it wasn't valvoline or pennzoil....

Originally Posted by Gearhead

I'll bite..... A Texaco or Mobil industrial product?

steven, no special industrial product or additives. same stuff you could get out of a can. at least back then you could. gn must be busy