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    Default how about an E85 v6 pulling your toy hauler?

    stumbled across this....it's actually a little old, but man....its about time someone used this stuff like it should be used!


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    By far one of the best uses for E85 on the street I have to date. I have ask before WHY!!!! aren't blown ZR1 Vettes, Caddy CTSVs, and Shelbys coming flex fuel capatible. the best performance fuel at the pump, and it gets dumped into Escalades and 1500 Sierras, Taurus's and mini vans. WTF


    You do know who Ricardo is right? Every single self respecting gear head should know who/what Ricardo is.
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    I'm trying to figure out that exhaust plumbling ?

    GN I have no idea who he is......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
    I'm trying to figure out that exhaust plumbling ?

    GN I have no idea who he is......

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    Tsk, tsk.

    He is the father of the wedge/squish/qench chamber. He is responable for collecting more data on the combustion process than any man that lived. His research and data are still used today. He developed the ways to lower the octane requirement of I.C.Es, as well as extract more power from the combustion process. Like the Einstein of the I.C.E.
    Ricardo Research is consulted by every major auto amnufacture today with respect to power, fuel consumption, emossions, and even driveline design, transmissions etc. If it moves, and requires energy, they have a division for it. The man was a flippin genius.

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    Yep, that's the main reason I posted the video. It's one thing for some small company to research and build an e85 v6 towing beast, it's a other for it to come from and industry leader in R&D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    Yep, that's the main reason I posted the video. It's one thing for some small company to research and build an e85 v6 towing beast, it's a other for it to come from and industry leader in R&D.

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    Yep. Gale Banks could build 5 different deals and make zero impact. All the performance boaters in the country mean zip. But when NASCAR makes it work in a performance deal at a national level, and a firm like Ricardo develops a work horse V6, it shows the real potential of the fuel, and that the manufactures are over looking a cleaner burning, more powerfull fuel. The one big stumbling point with it is that they HAVE TO restructure the CAFE regulations for it, and develop a better means of producing it. The greenies don;t care for it much. If they could lower the carbon foot print of production, get it 100% off the food stuff supply chain, it could be a viable fuel in the near future, until they develop viable alternatives.

    Nice thread AP. Thanks for posting it.
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    Really makes you wonder why Ford doesn't make a Flex Fuel Ecoboost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopjonnyjon View Post
    Really makes you wonder why Ford doesn't make a Flex Fuel Ecoboost.

    Id put big money on it, that its headed in that direction, and that Ecoboost was designed to adapt to E85 with ease. I think it was a PR move to not introduce a truck with a turbo V6 AND say its flex! They needed to establish the capability of the V6 Ecoboost without the E85/Flex label, because its got such bad publicity...and for good reason. Now that people are falling in love with it, E85/Flex is next, and the E85/Flex part will be what changes peoples mind...well hopefully. Its hard to teach the ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    Id put big money on it, that its headed in that direction, and that Ecoboost was designed to adapt to E85 with ease. I think it was a PR move to not introduce a truck with a turbo V6 AND say its flex! They needed to establish the capability of the V6 Ecoboost without the E85/Flex label, because its got such bad publicity...and for good reason. Now that people are falling in love with it, E85/Flex is next, and the E85/Flex part will be what changes peoples mind...well hopefully. Its hard to teach the ignorant.

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    Considering that the very first flex fuel Fords were the Taurus' and then trucks, and the Ecoboost is used in both, it would certainly make sense.
    One potent towing truck, and one bad ass all wheel drive performance car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Considering that the very first flex fuel Fords were the Taurus' and then trucks, and the Ecoboost is used in both, it would certainly make sense.
    One potent towing truck, and one bad ass all wheel drive performance car.

    I think E85 is here to stay......I also HOPE its here to stay

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    Id put big money on it, that its headed in that direction, and that Ecoboost was designed to adapt to E85 with ease. I think it was a PR move to not introduce a truck with a turbo V6 AND say its flex! They needed to establish the capability of the V6 Ecoboost without the E85/Flex label, because its got such bad publicity...and for good reason. Now that people are falling in love with it, E85/Flex is next, and the E85/Flex part will be what changes peoples mind...well hopefully. Its hard to teach the ignorant.

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    I have not seen anything like that here at work. I have spoke with a few engineers here on site and nobody (at least that I have spoken with) has taken any interest in the idea. I hope I am wrong and they are working on it as it would be a great idea. It is about time the auto makers started using it to its potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    I think E85 is here to stay......I also HOPE its here to stay
    Number 1 requirement is the vehicles themselves. There is a reason 8 tracks stopped selling. Then vinyl, then cassettes, then.......
    No vehicles, no requirement for the fuel.


    Wouldn't be the first motor fuel that didn't pan out. Even when it carried no tax!

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    Thought I would share this with you guys. Tonight I filled up my car at the same station I almost always use. Its across the street from a station that sells E85. The price of 87 at the station I was at, and the other across the street was 4 cent more than the E85 in the 3rd station. granted the 87 there was 6 cents more than the E85. Point being, how many soccer mommies are filling with a fuel that gets 30% less milage and cost 4 cents less. How many guys are filling their Sierra 2500 to tow a boat to the river using E85. In all the time that stastion as been selling E85, I have never seen a car buying it. That fuel is taking up precious space in the ground and the island.
    Until they make a varible boost, or at the very least a hi po 91 octane engined vehicle that can take advandage of the fuel, its a loser at those prices.
    Only a varible boost engine can take full advantage of the fuels capability. And it wouldn't be that hard. Bottom line, until there is a mandate for vehicles like brazil has, or there is a vehicle that can take full advantage of the fuel, its doomed in my eyes.
    You can hopey and wishy all you like, and think they will make just for you, but be honest with your self. 8 tracks and vinyls don't sell any more! 45s and 87s have been gone for decades.
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