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PFAFF Engines - 1600+ HP

Well Done!!! Two thumbs up!!!

Be prepared for the hatred, though. Two people on here, including myself, love that you built it with EFI. Everyone else will tell you that the EFI should be ripped off in favor of carbs.

Originally Posted by Beer:30

Well Done!!! Two thumbs up!!!

Be prepared for the hatred, though. Two people on here, including myself, love that you built it with EFI. Everyone else will tell you that the EFI should be ripped off in favor of carbs.

You are so full shit.

To bad it wasn't an LS based deal. It would have made 2000 on 87 octane

so crusty instead of the personal attack in the 4th post of the thread is that not a bad ass power by the hour motor???

Pfaff doesn't know how to build junk. They would have to refer to an instrustion manual to build crap.
Yes, it is badd azz piece.
The biggest reason they put the EFI on it is so they can sell them to people like Beer who think a screw driver is vodka and orange juice.

As the emissions get worse and worse for these guys, your going to see more and more EFI standard. Just a sign of the times.
BTW, the BS started with the 2nd post, not the 4th

ya but you took the baitand come out lookin the $#it

Originally Posted by Pfaff Engines

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Great Build..Sorry GN... but the times are changing with EFI being the new choice...We were thinking of running carbs with the 588 we're building with Steelcomp but have started looking at EFI...( I only said STARTED looking) so don't jump my shit yet!!!

Somewhere everybody got the idea I am anti EFI. My only bitch was with some that think they make MORE power than a carb, and that total bullshit. I think EFI is bitchin. I perfer the simplicity of the carbs for a race deal. But wouldn't want a carb on my daily driver and would perfer EFI on a pleasure boat. I think you been believing to much pf Beer bullshit.

Originally Posted by gn7

Somewhere everybody got the idea I am anti EFI. My only bitch was with some that think they make MORE power than a carb, and that total bullshit. I think EFI is bitchin. I perfer the simplicity of the carbs for a race deal. But wouldn't want a carb on my daily driver and would perfer EFI on a pleasure boat. I think you been believing to much pf Beer bullshit.

And now you're letting your anger get the best of you. I never said EFI will make MORE power than carbs. I have always said there is no reason they shouldn't make the SAME power. Fuel is fuel, air is air. Getting into the motor properly is the job of whatever is on top.

BoostPower said they can extact every last HP on a given setup by trimming cylinders. In essence, getting each cylinder to produce as close to the same HP as possible. Which is impossible with a carb....or even TBI EFI.

Everything I have posted is true and not bullshit. If it's bullshit to YOU, then so be it - I have no control over that. EFI and it's capabilities are obviously something you don't understand NOR do you WANT to. That's fine. As I said before, you don't HAVE to try to prove me wrong. It's just your choice.

I work with refining EFI every day. You don't. Therefore, I wouldn't expect you to understand the points that I throw out there. It's just to clarify possibilities for people who may be wanting to upgrade what they currently have.

I am never after the last available HP anymore. Been there, done that. I just want excellent drivability so I don't have to make excuses for a car. I grew up with cars (and boats) that always had "querks". NEW cars and truck don't have those. You turn the key and stand on the throttle with zero hesitation and no chokes or other adjustments to deal with. That's all I am looking for on my rides. I want ANYONE to be able to twist the key and just drive.

So, back to THIS motor. I applaud it relentlessly. ANYBODY can drive this motor in a boat. No carb querks, no surging (unless you TELL it to). Turn the key and it will fire and take care of itself. Good job Pfaff.

Originally Posted by gn7

Somewhere everybody got the idea I am anti EFI. My only bitch was with some that think they make MORE power than a carb, and that total bullshit. I think EFI is bitchin. I perfer the simplicity of the carbs for a race deal. But wouldn't want a carb on my daily driver and would perfer EFI on a pleasure boat. I think you been believing to much pf Beer bullshit.

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Well I guess then double overhead cams, four valves per cylinder with fuel injection is NASA stuff....right. Carburetors are pioneer tools when you look at what is going on today. Eventually, all boat engines will be fuel injected and this will be a moot issue. If your an engine builder.... EFI and carb compliance will sound the death knell for all carb motors as buyers will demand EFI.

Gn7, your a very knowledgeable guy but still cling to old school ways. Nevertheless, I agree with you on the quality of the engines at Paul Pfaff aka Gordy...they really have ratcheted up their game.

KAP

P.S. If you want marine power you gotta have cubic inches...no substitute IMLO.

P.P.S. Uhh can we see what hull this motor is going into...keep the videos coming.

Originally Posted by KAP

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P.S. If you want marine power you gotta have cubic inches...no substitute IMLO.
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Truer words were never posted. For some reason there are those that haven't learned there is no such thing as a free lunch.

EFI is the wave of the future. There can be no denying it. Electronics have been on the leading edge of our entire lives. Not only os the magneto dead, but the standard issue CDI is wavering. Its all about total fuel, air AND spark control. Anybody that thinks its not has their head up their ass.

Originally Posted by EdonShano

Great Build..Sorry GN... but the times are changing with EFI being the new choice...We were thinking of running carbs with the 588 we're building with Steelcomp but have started looking at EFI...( I only said STARTED looking) so don't jump my shit yet!!!

You know I'm all for it Ed. 'Bout time I get caught up on the EFI curve.