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    well i was having fun and then my motor threw up and took a rod out and made windows in the oil pan and went on a rampage took the cam and a few lifters and a push rod with. but i had a blast out there other than that. well does any one know a good reliable set up for a 454 18 foot jet and i might be getting a place diverter and putting my loader in the intake. right now i have the small steel heads ported with stainless ex valves, srp pistons no clue on the comp i run 91 octane, had a comp cam now looking for better one lol, hyd flat tappet and knock of roller rockers and cast crank but 4bolt block (hoping its still good) and i have now 7 dot rods looking into some new rods in the price range and bassett headers wet

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    Where are you located? I'm in Southern California,, have a bunch of parts once you get yours apart and see what you need.

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    i live in perris next to elsinore and work in norco thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 454berkeley View Post
    i live in perris next to elsinore and work in norco thanks
    then obnoxious is the guy you need to get ahold of.
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    Sweet that's some great news for a bad situation

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    Well I got the motor a part today and well it needs a new crank maby a block cause 3 lifter holes are messed up and it needs 1 liner a cam and lifters and a piston but that is a stock item at srp. And also a lil patching to the oil pan

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    ok well im the smart one that put a stp oil filter on my boat ya i know smooth move . well we belive it broke internally and ultimatly by passed with dirty oil has any one sent in a oil filter due to this problem or any thing similar and also what was the out come thanks

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    If you're really really lucky, they will send you a new filter. Check with Sold Honda Bought Hondo. He had a Fram come apart and sent it to them. There was a time when the STP filter was a pretty decent filter. Its now the same filter as the Delco "ECORE" pile of crap.

    Was your block mounted bypass removed? I doubt dirty oil tossed your rod unless it was mud. Now if you bypass was removed, you're engine was smoked do to lack of oil, not dirty oil.
    And then there is always the possibilty that a piece of the junk filter's plastic internal found its way to your crank.
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    the oil was still good oil minus the gliter and yea the block mounted bypass is blocked off do u think i have any hope or just man up and build it agian thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 454berkeley View Post
    the oil was still good oil minus the gliter and yea the block mounted bypass is blocked off do u think i have any hope or just man up and build it agian thanks
    They are going to tell you that it would have lived just fine if you hadn't modified the oil system. Your enigne didn't die from dirty oil, it died from no oil.
    I will never cease to amaze me why guys insist on blocking the bypass and then install the first filter on sale at Pep Boys. I tell you right now, the filter collapsed because it could pass the oil flow requirement you were asking for it.

    Let me guess, you used the S6607 filter.

    You are aware that the filter has a bypass built into it, so removing the block mounted one only hurt you when the filter imploded. If the block mounted one was there, the oil would have simply bypassed the filter without ever entering it.

    Lets look at how your filter stacks up against some of the others you could have used. Best top to bottom. Seems the Ecore/Delco'STP didn't rate to well. In fact, the only filters that did worse were the extended range Fram and Delco filters which nobody claims to be GOOD flowing filters.


    Filtration:
    1. Delco UPF 52
    2. PureOne, Bosch Premium, and Donaldson
    3. Purolator Classic, Mobil 1 Ext Perf. and K&N, Mann, Fram Extended Guard
    4. Wix/NAPA Gold and Wix built Delco Duraguard PF53, Mahle
    5. Ecore style AC/Delco, Supetech, STP, and Fram Extraguard
    6. Denso, Honda, Hamp

    Construction:
    1. Mobil 1 and K&N
    2. Wix/NAPA Gold, Fram Extended Guard, Mann, Mahle
    3. Purolator, Bosch Premium and PureOne
    4. Denso, Honda, Hamp
    5. Ecore style AC/Delco, Supetech, STP
    6. Fram Extraguard

    Easy oil flow:
    1. Denso, Honda, Hamp
    2. Mann, Mahle, Purolator Classic, Proline, Fram Extraguard, Fram Toughguard
    3. Mobil 1, K&N, Wix/NAPA Gold,
    4. PureOne, and Bosch Premium
    5. Ecore style AC/Delco, Supetech, STP
    6. Delco UPF52 , Fram Extended Guard


    Oh well, after all, blocking the bypass is what all the "racers" do.
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    Yes I was the rookie that built a nice over all motor and put a junk filter and now I get to do it again gggggrrrrrrr that sucks but a learning lesson that I will learn. And thanks for all the input gn7 ure a great help. Looks like ill be saving my lunch money till my unborn kids are moved outta the house
    And ya I do belive that was the number

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    The filter could have just as easily be a S8873 which has no built in bypass. Both have an internal filter media about half the size of "real" filter. Look at the length of this thing! On top of that it isn't a real good flowing filter media and it has a plastic center tube instead of a metal perf tube. it also has the crapping cardboard end caps that the Fram has.




    Do your self a favor and read this entire thread. You'll know which filter to run in the future.
    LINK: Sleeper CP Filter comparison
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    Why is it, it's the OIL FILTER which caused the problem???

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    Quote Originally Posted by e85hater View Post
    Why is it, it's the OIL FILTER which caused the problem???
    because that is what my engine builder told me so that is what i had to go off of i hadent seen much of the damage just heard but oilfilter was just a baby pos filter. but i really needed a big daddy one like a baldwin or something like that but its a lesson learned but yet expencive

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