572 built wrong!

[sangerfan76]

i agree in a way im not saying the builder is all to blame but he used crap parts most likely hoping they wouldnt come apart and they did. so 100% on the builder. but id let him know asap reason is. if the engine is torn down by another person in court a good defence will push that the parts were not the ones installed. also sometimes not letting the builder warrant his bad may get him out of it, even though its his crap work thatstarted this whole mess. i would stop get the builder involved and notify him of the problem if they do not fix it then go for the lawyer , if he does then he dont haft to be responsible for other persons labor. i hate being devils advocate but id hate to see you get burned anymore than you already have. also post the builders name so no one else will go there.

[sangerfan76]

if it were me and i was that pissed id take a photo blow it up and put on a big board across the street from the shop saying look how they built my engine. a big yellow board. legally he cant complain of your truck there or the board. as long as you dont stop patrons going in the business. freedom of speech. i deal with it alot being in law enforcement

[ovrkll77]

Originally Posted by sangerfan76

if it were me and i was that pissed id take a photo blow it up and put on a big board across the street from the shop saying look how they built my engine. a big yellow board. legally he cant complain of your truck there or the board. as long as you dont stop patrons going in the business. freedom of speech. i deal with it alot being in law enforcement

i'm going to call him today. it's good to know that there is some normal people that don't take sides

[hotbo]

guess im not normalthat mill ran was run awhile after it scatteredbut if it makes you feel any better.its not your fault at all.


not being able to turn over 3000-3500 rpm first clue,listening to the mill second clue,shutting it off when it didnt sound right,heres my sign.


hope it works out for ya,its always sad to see these things get out of hand,should have contacted the engine builder before bashing them.just my .02.travis.

[SRP1]

Lots can be said about what happened, but at least give the guy a chance to find out what happened before you sic the dogs on him.
Neither of you may be at fault, engines do blow up, that's a fact and you could be looking at nothing more than a parts failure here.

Not always but a lot of the time a failure like this leads back to something to do with installation, or a lack of care with regards to the supporting systems around the engine such as fuel supply or cooling. This is a very common problem, give the guy a chance.

[hotbo]

Originally Posted by SRP1

Lots can be said about what happened, but at least give the guy a chance to find out what happened before you sic the dogs on him.
Neither of you may be at fault, engines do blow up, that's a fact and you could be looking at nothing more than a parts failure here.

Not always but a lot of the time a failure like this leads back to something to do with installation, or a lack of care with regards to the supporting systems around the engine such as fuel supply or cooling. This is a very common problem, give the guy a chance.

X2

[ovrkll77]

Originally Posted by hotbo

guess im not normalthat mill ran was run awhile after it scatteredbut if it makes you feel any better.its not your fault at all.


not being able to turn over 3000-3500 rpm first clue,listening to the mill second clue,shutting it off when it didnt sound right,heres my sign.


hope it works out for ya,its always sad to see these things get out of hand,should have contacted the engine builder before bashing them.just my .02.travis.

yes you are right. I called him today and no response. i'll try him tomorrow. Giving him a chance is true, so I talk shit about him I'd like to hold it if needed till I talk to him. So If so far I said anything wrong about him I am taking it sort of back till then.

As far as the motor...it sounded very good all the way till it happened, and still idled with no noise, wich was strange. Also very confusing, I was able to rev the motor up no problem in the 2nd gear. shifting in 3rd gear was when it didnt build the r's. (turbo 400 with 1.48 2nd and a 1.1 in 3rd)

[SRP1]

Good decision on giving him a chance, you both deserve it, and if he takes it on as his mistake it could save you a lot of money!


Hope this works out for you in the end, no one deserves nor likes to deal with these types of problems, and that goes for both sides.

[SPEEDOMO]

Of course anytime a customer has a problem he is welcomed back whether it was his fault or ours. "Problem" customers become loyal customers. In spite of all the inaccurate comments, he is still welcome here. Since he has posted on this forum, I feel it is only appropriate to present all the facts for the community to decide. Attached below is Johns invoice.

John came to us requesting a budget build re-using some of his old parts. There was no misrepresentation of the Chinese crank and rod forgings, they were approved by John. I would personally escort John, sometimes with his HOT girlfriend, to see his engine in the process of being CNC machined, balanced and assembled on many of his frequent visits. Every part listed on the invoice is exactly what was used in his engine.

As noted on the invoice and explained to him the old carburetors were too small for the larger 572 and could result in damage to the engine. He elected to pull his engine from our shop before completion stating he would return it to us when he had more money. Given that he had bounced a check, note NSF fee, I took him at his word. We never had a chance to Dyno or set the ignition timing he believes caused the dropped valve.

After picking up his engine in May of 2008, we subsequently spoke with him stating the engine was running fine with the small carbs as he was only running 3 lbs boost. He has had the engine over a year and told us he worked on the engine himself.

My personal thanks to all our customers who brought this matter to my attention. I will repair the damaged engine at our expense if John will pay for the dyno tuning. Perhaps now this unhappy customer will follow up on his postings and actually contact me.

The following link is a 540cid 1000HP engine recently built for a customer using similar crankshaft and rods...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...-BB_197664.htm

[ovrkll77]

It would of been nice if my info was removed! I don't think it was a smart thing to post my personal info so the whole world can see! I don't care if i loose another $30,000 i will sue the hell out of you if you don't remove my personal info for the world to see. I also have a sister who is a news reporter and i'm sure you would'nt want to be on the news for screwing with peoples info

[ovrkll77]

Took him at his word for nsf? My acount was closed due to some fruad activitys, so i gave you cash which was better for you. So why are you bringing up some bs about a nsf check.
Anyway 1050 dominators are what is used on almost every big ci motor i have seen. You had an issue with it being 2 circuit and you wanted 3 circuit, not going to happen on a boat smart guy.

[TwinTurbo540]

Originally Posted by ovrkll77

It would of been nice if my info was removed! I don't think it was a smart thing to post my personal info so the whole world can see! I don't care if i loose another $30,000 i will sue the hell out of you if you don't remove my personal info for the world to see. I also have a sister who is a news reporter and i'm sure you would'nt want to be on the news for screwing with peoples info

Your a real ****ing douch bag!!!! You come on here and slam him for shitty work without ever contacting him.....he then tells his side of the story and offers to pay for it and your still not happy!!! You think that its really that hard to find someones info anyway..?? You have been posting on a public forum, its easier than you think. What are you so worried about anyway??

[ovrkll77]

Originally Posted by TwinTurbo540

Your a real ****ing douch bag!!!! You come on here and slam him for shitty work without ever contacting him.....he then tells his side of the story and offers to pay for it and your still not happy!!! You think that its really that hard to find someones info anyway..?? You have been posting on a public forum, its easier than you think. What are you so worried about anyway??

well what i'm worried about? my boat being here, and people like you that call out names and think they are tuff on the internet

[TwinTurbo540]

Originally Posted by ovrkll77

well what i'm worried about? my boat being here, and people like you that call out names and think they are tuff on the internet

I am not trying to be an internet tough guy......thanks though. YOU started this thread and now YOU are having to eat your own words and do not like it! Since you have so many powerfull friends why dont you go ahead with your threats of sueing and being on the news......Lets see how far that gets you! lol

[Jake]

Originally Posted by ovrkll77

Took him at his word for nsf? My acount was closed due to some fruad activitys, so i gave you cash which was better for you. So why are you bringing up some bs about a nsf check.
Anyway 1050 dominators are what is used on almost every big ci motor i have seen. You had an issue with it being 2 circuit and you wanted 3 circuit, not going to happen on a boat smart guy.

LMAO---if your so boat smart, why don't you fix it yourself!!!!!!!!!!!

[HWLaser23]

this is like days of our lives for men. i read all the posts and was quite entertained thanks everybody. sucks for both parties though, hope everything works out for all involved

[ovrkll77]

Originally Posted by Jake

LMAO---if your so boat smart, why don't you fix it yourself!!!!!!!!!!!

Aready did

[500BBC]

Where's the pics of the chick?

I'm going with John on this one, hell Speed-O-Motive has onle been in business for sixty years. WTF do they know.

[Beer:30]

Originally Posted by ovrkll77

It would of been nice if my info was removed! I don't think it was a smart thing to post my personal info so the whole world can see!

Why not? You listed THEIR information. You named THEM, right? Fair is fair. If you're gonna start a 6th grade name-calling game, the rules apply to you as well as the other guy(s).

[terrible_buddhist]

Originally Posted by ovrkll77

It would of been nice if my info was removed! I don't think it was a smart thing to post my personal info so the whole world can see! I don't care if i loose another $30,000 i will sue the hell out of you if you don't remove my personal info for the world to see. I also have a sister who is a news reporter and i'm sure you would'nt want to be on the news for screwing with peoples info

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

Dude, you got owned...take it like a man, say you are sorry, go get your engine fixed.

[Beer:30]

Originally Posted by terrible_buddhist

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

Dude, you got owned...take it like a man, say you are sorry, go get your engine fixed.

Nice call. Except, you forgot the ending:
....go get your engine fixed - and shut the F up.

[nOv1c3]

Right or wrong with the man with the engines issues

But a company posting personal info about a customer is even worse

I wouldnt do business or recommend there services to anyone if they are that lax with some one personal info

[superdave013]

Originally Posted by ovrkll77

It would of been nice if my info was removed! I don't think it was a smart thing to post my personal info so the whole world can see! I don't care if i loose another $30,000 i will sue the hell out of you if you don't remove my personal info for the world to see. I also have a sister who is a news reporter and i'm sure you would'nt want to be on the news for screwing with peoples info

dude, did you just pull out the sister card?


Don't mess with ovrkll, he'll go get his SISTER!!


Ahaha

[500BBC]

Originally Posted by superdave013

dude, did you just pull out the sister card?


Don't mess with ovrkll, he'll go get his SISTER!!


Ahaha

[terrible_buddhist]

Originally Posted by nOv1c3

Right or wrong with the man with the engines issues

But a company posting personal info about a customer is even worse

I wouldnt do business or recommend there services to anyone if they are that lax with some one personal info

your kidding right? Name and city? After he called them out?

AND THEN THEY OFFER TO FIX IT FOR JUST THE DYNO FEE!? Hell, I am more likely to use them because of this!

[nOv1c3]

Originally Posted by terrible_buddhist

your kidding right? Name and city? After he called them out?

AND THEN THEY OFFER TO FIX IT FOR JUST THE DYNO FEE!? Hell, I am more likely to use them because of this!

Not kidding at all , I,m dead serious about my privacy

This Company is just showing a lack of professionalism

No mater what , You never post or give out personal info about any customer

[sdpm]

I don't see intake or exhaust valves on any of the invoices. Were they used heads and valves?

Speedo, when you assemble engines, do you check TDC and verify with the timing marks/pointer?

Not pointing blame at anyone just asking?

Pretty nice of Speedo to still offer up help at this point. Probably could have been handled a little differently and by the response the outcome could have been much better.

[jrork]

Originally Posted by sdpm

Pretty nice of Speedo to still offer up help at this point.

Agreed. Let's hope this gets worked out.

[terrible_buddhist]

Originally Posted by nOv1c3

Not kidding at all , I,m dead serious about my privacy

This Company is just showing a lack of professionalism

No mater what , You never post or give out personal info about any customer

So, its ok to trash a companies reputation on a public forum...but that company needs to keep your name secret?

F-That.

[Beer:30]

Originally Posted by terrible_buddhist

So, its ok to trash a companies reputation on a public forum...but that company needs to keep your name secret?

F-That.

Amen. AND, they didn't actually say it was HIS INVOICE. They said "recently built for a customer" and they also listed it as a "540", not "572" as this thread is named. HE was the one that spilled the beans that it was HIS invoice.