Diesel oil and zink

**BUSBY** · 06-22-2012, 02:13 PM

I kind of have information on this ... just a little lol

Rotella T3 and/or Tripple Protection has a 15w-40 with ZDDP count about 1200ppm

Regularly available at all auto parts stores and WalMart too.

Not only can you use in your tow vehicle ... but in your boats engine as well.

As far as additives ... Torco's MPZ Magnetic Friction Reducer is the way to go if you feel the need to add one. If you're like me & are anal about oil changes and wear ... this is a no brainer ... add it.

That's my combo, Rotella T3 & MPZ MFR

**HammerDown** · 06-22-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by BLUE BOMBER

ok big hammer what do you think of my mixture of running the blue premimum and the ZDDPlus additive. i personally think i would have a winning combination with that

Honestly I don't know???
Guess my response would be > why not just run a good quality performance oil that already has what you need in it?
Just wondering but, what make us believe "diesel rated" oil has an edge over a quality off-road/racing oil?
Diesel oil is heavily designed to suspend the 'soot' produced by the it's 'compression' engine.
I kinda like and use Valvoline VR1 synthetic Racing oil. 20/50
Prior to that I was all about Brad Penn Racing straight 50...but I do believe the 20/50 has a better pump-ability to it when start up occurs...and...it makes it's way back to the oil pick-up faster. (just my way of thinking) Plus it's Synthetic > I notice it takes more load time to build heat in the oil and the oil holds pressure better ans does run cooler vs dino.

**HammerDown** · 06-22-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by BLUE BOMBER

This is a PDF email i just recieved from the people over at lucas. The facts dont lie about there stuff.

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Lucas Motor Oil

Typical Zinc Values

Quart

Description

Zinc PPM

Quart

Description

Zinc PPM

Part #'s

Motor Oil

Part #'s

Motorcycle Oil

10179

Syn SAE 0W-30

1,265

10700

SAE 20W-50

1,058

10211

Syn SAE 0W-40

1,265

10702

Syn SAE 20W-50

1,058

10082

Syn SAE 5W-20 API

861

10704

Syn SAE 5W-20

1,058

10049

Syn SAE 5W-30 API

861

10706

Syn SAE 5W-30

1,058

10189

Syn SAE 5w-40 API

861

10708

Syn SAE 10W-30

1,058

10050

Syn SAE 10W-30 API

861

10710

Semi-Syn 10W-40

1,058

10176

Semi-Syn SAE 10W-40

1,265

10712

50W

1,058

10054

Syn SAE 20W-50

1,265

10714

70W

1,058

10516

SAE 5W-20 API

861

10716

Syn SAE 10W-50

1,058

10474

SAE 5W-30 API

861

10718

Syn SAE 0W-40

1,058

10276

SAE 10W-30 API

861

10720

Semi Syn SAE 10W-40 ATV

1,058

10275

SAE 10W-40 API

861

10765

Syn 50W

1,542

10252

SAE 20W-50 API

861

10767

SAE 10W-40

1,058

10162

SAE 40WT API

861

10777

SAE Syn 10W-40 Moly

1,058

10053

30 Plus

1,265

Quart #'s

Break-In Oil

10044

50 Plus

3,921

10626

SAE 20

3,634

10261

70 Plus

5,458

10630

SAE 30

3,634

Quart #'s

Racing Only Oil

10635

SAE 20W-50

3,634

10281

Syn SAE 0W-5

4,836

Quart #'s

Heavy Duty Diesel

10286

Syn SAE 0W-10

3,289

10075

SAE 15w-40 CI 4 Magnum

1,524

10291

Syn SAE 0W-20

3,218

10298

Syn 15w-40 CJ 4 API

1,281

10605

Syn SAE 0W-30

2,616

10296

SAE 15w-40 CJ 4 API

1,281

10610

Syn SAE 10W-30

3,097

10435

Syn 5w-40 CJ 4 API

1,362

10615

Syn SAE 20W-50

3,132

10571

SAE 10w30 CJ 4 API 5 gal

1,281

10306

Semi-Syn SAE 20W-50

3,115

10620

SAE 20W-50

3,132

Pint #

Engine Break In Oil Additive

10380

Jr. Drag SAE 5W-20 15 oz

6,795

10063

TB Zinc Plus

35,000+

3x1/5 qt.

Hot Rod & Classic Car Oil

Mix Ratio

Zinc PPM

10679

SAE 10W-30

2,100

10063

4.5 qt Oil + 16oz Zinc Plus

5,000+

10683

SAE 10W-40

2,100

10063

4.75 qt Oil + 8oz Zinc Plus

2,500+

10684

SAE 20W-50

2,100

10063

4.9 qt Oil + 4oz Zinc Plus

1,250+

Quart #'s

Extreme Duty Marine Oil

10653

SAE 20W-50

3,132

Lucas Oil Products

10654

Semi-Syn SAE 20W-50

3,115

302 North Sheridan Street

10661

Syn SAE 10W-30 Outboard

820

CORONA, CA. 92880-2067

10662

Syn SAE 10W-40 Outboard

820

PHONE: 1-800-342-2512

10677

SAE 25W-40 Inb Strn Drv

820

FAX: 1-951-270-1902

E-MAIL: www.LucasOil.com

Great chart for "Lucas motor oil" not knocking it, but questioning why bother with the "stabilizer"?
Ask Lucas for a breakdown chart/additive package of what's in their "oil stabilizer" > and that's what put them on the map.
I gotta think the 'stabilizer' just gives it's user a warm-fuzzy feeling about using it, nothing more...and that's good marketing

This seems like the ticket...Extreme Duty Marine Oil
SAE 20W-50 3,132
10654 Semi-Syn SAE 20W-50 3,115

**BLUE BOMBER** · 06-22-2012, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by HammerDown

Honestly I don't know???
Guess my response would be > why not just run a good quality performance oil that already has what you need in it?
Just wondering but, what make us believe "diesel rated" oil has an edge over a quality off-road/racing oil?
Diesel oil is heavily designed to suspend the 'soot' produced by the it's 'compression' engine.
I kinda like and use Valvoline VR1 synthetic Racing oil. 20/50
Prior to that I was all about Brad Penn Racing straight 50...but I do believe the 20/50 has a better pump-ability to it when start up occurs...and...it makes it's way back to the oil pick-up faster. (just my way of thinking) Plus it's Synthetic > I notice it takes more load time to build heat in the oil and the oil holds pressure better ans does run cooler vs dino.

I like the valvoline because of the price for starters, i have been runnin it for a while thats why i havent decided to switch to anything else. I dont like racing oil for only one reason not alot of detergint. other then that it kicks ass. due to the fact i got a 25 year old engine that sits half a year with oil just sitting in it i think the detergint is a good idea to keep things clean.

I started out on this little quest because alot of people believe in there theorys and i think thats great and not knocking them. even i got my little lame ass theorys on why i run what i do too. i wanted the facts for my self, however all i could find is data that was old from 07 and 08, and a little form 10. I know that this stuff due to our gracious government is changing all the time.

So i called and got the facts for myself, in 2008 valvoline premimum blue had 1400 ppm, getting off the phone with ron at valvoline corporate it now has between 900 and 1000. these are the facts and thats what i wanted to know and share them with the community, i think they are important.

I would have to agree with you about the oil stabilizer, i have used it many times, i dont think it is anything amaising, i agree it is a feel good can. I got to tell you i find it funny that it isnt listed on the chart they sent me. wouldnt you think an oil additive would have a high amount of ZDDP and they would want to show that.

The rest of the summer i am gonna run what i got in there and add some ZDDP additive, either the ZDDPlus or maybe the lucas additive. i only wanns get to 2000 ppm ZDDP, because to much can be harmfull.

As for next year maybe run what i did this summer again, maybe do the lucas marine oil way bad ass. or maybe crack open the 3 cases of VR1 i have at my shop because the class 1 that use to have we sold and we arent gonna use it for the other cars because motor builders are weird amount what you run. imagine that haha.

**SBS933** · 06-23-2012, 03:08 PM

I Agree with Jet Pilot, I follow Dale in Hesperia's advice he has a deep knowlege on boats. I find it hard to get there for oil so I run Royal Purple 40 sae, with their filter and i run a sweet 70 psi oil pressure ,and I dump out a couple of quarts every time I go out and replace it just to keep it freshened up. it's a little expensive but if you don't want to take care of your boat then sell it.

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