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    ESTABLISHMENT OR DELETION OF CLASSES
    1. At the General Rules Meeting, the membership may establish or delete a racing class. The same procedure as for rule changes will apply. In either event, a one (1) year probationary period will be in effect.

    2. Special events may be added at each race at the discretion of the Race Committee.


    August 5, 2012

    Hello People,

    The NJBA and other professional racing organization do listen to the public’s opinion weather it agrees with the existing rule or controversial opinions.
    The NJBA does have the option to exercise part 2 of establishing a class based on that E85 Fuel and if there is a need to create a class that will be sustainable. Clearly the fuel is intended to reduce hydrocarbon and other negative effects to the atmosphere and is EPA friendly.

    There seems to about 12-16 people who are at odds as to what class does this propellant fit!

    How does this sound?
    FLEX FUEL JET – E85 FJ
    Blown E 85 Fuel Jets are intended to be jet boats used specifically for racing, but having highly unusual, expensive or experimental equipment.
    General
    1 Fuel is restricted to E-85 as intended for flex fuel. The maximum ethanol ratio to gasoline shall be 85 / 15.
    Engine
    1. Blowers or turbo-chargers are mandatory.
    2. Maximum engine displacement is 572 cubic inches.
    3. Blower belts must be Kevlar and 14mm in size.
    Pressure Relief Valve Requirements
    1. All Blown E-85 Jets must have a pressure relief valve attached to the intake side of the pump bowl. A pressure gage at the intake side of the impeller must be installed within 2” of the packing nut with a check ball or telltale type unit attached (0-200 lbs.).
    2. A manual override button on the steering wheel is required.
    3. The valve must open in an automatic fashion in case of engine failure or some other type of uncontrolled emergency.
    4. The valve will be inspected at the in-ramp prior to each run.
    5. Once valve is opened, it must remain open until the boat is on the trailer.
    6. Piston size:
    a. Minimum 4” diameter.
    b. 13 sq. inches minimum unrestricted exhaust opening.

    Willis

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    Quote Originally Posted by willis View Post
    ESTABLISHMENT OR DELETION OF CLASSES
    1. At the General Rules Meeting, the membership may establish or delete a racing class. The same procedure as for rule changes will apply. In either event, a one (1) year probationary period will be in effect.

    2. Special events may be added at each race at the discretion of the Race Committee.


    August 5, 2012

    Hello People,

    The NJBA and other professional racing organization do listen to the public’s opinion weather it agrees with the existing rule or controversial opinions.
    The NJBA does have the option to exercise part 2 of establishing a class based on that E85 Fuel and if there is a need to create a class that will be sustainable. Clearly the fuel is intended to reduce hydrocarbon and other negative effects to the atmosphere and is EPA friendly.

    There seems to about 12-16 people who are at odds as to what class does this propellant fit!

    How does this sound?
    FLEX FUEL JET – E85 FJ
    Blown E 85 Fuel Jets are intended to be jet boats used specifically for racing, but having highly unusual, expensive or experimental equipment.
    General
    1 Fuel is restricted to E-85 as intended for flex fuel. The maximum ethanol ratio to gasoline shall be 85 / 15.
    Engine
    1. Blowers or turbo-chargers are mandatory.
    2. Maximum engine displacement is 572 cubic inches.
    3. Blower belts must be Kevlar and 14mm in size.
    Pressure Relief Valve Requirements
    1. All Blown E-85 Jets must have a pressure relief valve attached to the intake side of the pump bowl. A pressure gage at the intake side of the impeller must be installed within 2” of the packing nut with a check ball or telltale type unit attached (0-200 lbs.).
    2. A manual override button on the steering wheel is required.
    3. The valve must open in an automatic fashion in case of engine failure or some other type of uncontrolled emergency.
    4. The valve will be inspected at the in-ramp prior to each run.
    5. Once valve is opened, it must remain open until the boat is on the trailer.
    6. Piston size:
    a. Minimum 4” diameter.
    b. 13 sq. inches minimum unrestricted exhaust opening.

    Willis

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    Quote Originally Posted by NO REGRET$ View Post
    so can we make PRO GAS JET 600 CU and run alcohol ?????

    To bad E85 is rarely if at all 85/15 so how would you blend fuel? What would be allowable %? Why be the make yet another category class in the club?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NO REGRET$ View Post
    so can we make PRO GAS JET 600 CU and run alcohol ?????
    Big D,

    That class is set already, not "NEW",

    You know the rules!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willis View Post
    ESTABLISHMENT OR DELETION OF CLASSES
    1. At the General Rules Meeting, the membership may establish or delete a racing class. The same procedure as for rule changes will apply. In either event, a one (1) year probationary period will be in effect.

    2. Special events may be added at each race at the discretion of the Race Committee.


    August 5, 2012

    Hello People,

    The NJBA and other professional racing organization do listen to the public’s opinion weather it agrees with the existing rule or controversial opinions.
    The NJBA does have the option to exercise part 2 of establishing a class based on that E85 Fuel and if there is a need to create a class that will be sustainable. Clearly the fuel is intended to reduce hydrocarbon and other negative effects to the atmosphere and is EPA friendly.

    There seems to about 12-16 people who are at odds as to what class does this propellant fit!

    How does this sound?
    FLEX FUEL JET – E85 FJ
    Blown E 85 Fuel Jets are intended to be jet boats used specifically for racing, but having highly unusual, expensive or experimental equipment.
    General
    1 Fuel is restricted to E-85 as intended for flex fuel. The maximum ethanol ratio to gasoline shall be 85 / 15.
    Engine
    1. Blowers or turbo-chargers are mandatory.
    2. Maximum engine displacement is 572 cubic inches.
    3. Blower belts must be Kevlar and 14mm in size.
    Pressure Relief Valve Requirements
    1. All Blown E-85 Jets must have a pressure relief valve attached to the intake side of the pump bowl. A pressure gage at the intake side of the impeller must be installed within 2” of the packing nut with a check ball or telltale type unit attached (0-200 lbs.).
    2. A manual override button on the steering wheel is required.
    3. The valve must open in an automatic fashion in case of engine failure or some other type of uncontrolled emergency.
    4. The valve will be inspected at the in-ramp prior to each run.
    5. Once valve is opened, it must remain open until the boat is on the trailer.
    6. Piston size:
    a. Minimum 4” diameter.
    b. 13 sq. inches minimum unrestricted exhaust opening.

    Willis
    Willis I see where you're coming from on this but I don't think we will be adding anymore classes to accommodate one or two people. The E85 engines already fall into a class and its blown fuel. It really doesn't matter in the jet class being that all the blown and unblown boats run against one another as it is. The only thing that comes into play are records. The other option is at the rules meeting to propose a change in the current rules allowing E85 in the gas classes and let the club vote on it. We already have too many classes with poor participation and need to reduce the number of classes not add more.

    I hope Bob's deal runs good as it would be a good addition to the power adder class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rocket View Post
    Willis I see where you're coming from on this but I don't think we will be adding anymore classes to accommodate one or two people. The E85 engines already fall into a class and its blown fuel. It really doesn't matter in the jet class being that all the blown and unblown boats run against one another as it is. The only thing that comes into play are records. The other option is at the rules meeting to propose a change in the current rules allowing E85 in the gas classes and let the club vote on it. We already have too many classes with poor participation and need to reduce the number of classes not add more.

    I hope Bob's deal runs good as it would be a good addition to the power adder class.
    Hey Mike

    Just tryin to help clear the air

    Willis

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    Yep I get it Willis. Are you gonna be back in sept?

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    Even though it's none of my business. And only offering a suggestion.

    What about a heads up 1000' class no MPH limit. (it's exceeded anyway) Get rid of some of the 1 and 2 boat classes. No additional purse to pay by replacing one or some of them. Run what ya brung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rocket View Post
    Yep I get it Willis. Are you gonna be back in sept?
    Yes,

    We have a lot left, and the boat has been worked, keel fixed, jet parts welded that cracked, new sensors added where needed.

    That new QData 2 is quick to upload and download outings.

    This time we will be there Sunday, and we are not going home first.

    Willis
    Last edited by willis; 08-05-2012 at 05:38 PM.

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    Unlikely to add any classes. I think that NJBA has a lot of classes for just about all types of boats and some that have very low boat counts.

    I'd like to see a 6.0 1000' ft class added and a few classes go away.

    I think that 6.0, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, 11.0 and River Racer and then SE would be perfect for brackets and maybe a few pro classes.
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