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Panther to Berk JE or JF Conversion

How hard would this be to do on a Tahiti daycruiser? Or is it downright impossible?

easier to just do a setback with a G.....less work

Yes, as Cas said.

The E/F/I pumps have a partial suction piece.
The intake and front 1/2 of the suction piece are molded into the hull, by a mold plug, when the hull is layed up. The rear edge and upper/rear half, are metal.

Would be a massive PITA to mold the intake in, especially since, to make it strongest, you would have to take out a good piece of the hull and have solid cloth making the entire intake area molding.

Put a standard intake setup in, much simpler and IMO better.

Originally Posted by Jetaholic

How hard would this be to do on a Tahiti daycruiser? Or is it downright impossible?

what type of tahiti daycruiser? just curious..don't see many of em around like mine.

Jon as Im sure you know "E" and "F" pumps are the same sans "gimble trim" it would be much simpler to replace the Panther with a Standard "12 series" Berk /Dom/AT/Aggressor type Jet or maybe even give thought to an AT SD 309. any way you move is going to require some significant Glass work, The design of the Panther hull mold insert vs the Berk "E" type mold insert will not make the swap you refer to simple at all IMO . Also maybe give thought to the Panther energizer ,virtually no hull mods , "parts intensive kit" and easy to install the only part reused from the Panther is the Suction hsg ,all other pieces are AT .. Tom

recent Panther to Berk swap


Panther Energizers

Yes, the "Energizer" kit would be the easy way to do it, and nothing really wrong with doing it that route.

It's a pretty spendy kit, but, it is almost entirely all new parts as Tom said, parts are never cheap.

If it were my call, I would first try to lay my hands on a complete (or piece together used) a non E/F/I (the new insert pump is the "I") pump and go that route, depending on what it was in and what I wanted it to do.

I have a good C/E/F bowl (non-split), used, good shape, available, if anyone wants one.

Currently holding part of my garage concrete down.

I really like my Energizer and have no complaints. Don't hesitate to give Tommy at JBP a call. They're really nice folks.

For what it's worth, Pat (WickedBoats) called me about a buddy that has an almost brandnew Energizer for sale. His boat burned and his new boat isn't a Panther so he's selling his complete pump setup. Give him a try too.

Originally Posted by jrork

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For what it's worth, Pat (WickedBoats) called me about a buddy that has an almost brandnew Energizer for sale. His boat burned and his new boat isn't a Panther so he's selling his complete pump setup. Give him a try too.

There ya go, I'd jump on this possibility.

Originally Posted by SmokinLowriderSS

There ya go, I'd jump on this possibility.

Thanks for all the input guys. The boat in question is actually a friend of mine's. I've actually been trying to talk him into the energizer kit, but he's convinced that the intake is what his issue is and that the energizer kit won't do anything for him because it still uses the same intake, plus he says he's talked to some people who've tried it and were less than pleased with it, blah blah blah.

Anyone else running the energizer kit with great results?

I guess it starts with what does he want to do with the boat? Race?? Ski??

On my old tahiti I bolted on about 8 to 9 mph, with no other motor changes what so ever. And it dropped my r's about 400-500 to boot. And that was a b cut.