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    i am currently installing an energizer kit and a place diverter(formerly jacuzzi YJ). i am only running about 450 horse. what are the pros and cons of running a nozzle wedge??
    place diverters run 20 degrees up and 20 down.
    why not 30 up and 10 down??

    i am new to all this. just looking for a little education on diverters???
    should i go stock??
    should i go 2 degree wedge??
    should i go 4 degree wedge??

    any and all advise will be appreciated,
    thanx

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    are you running a droop also?
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    was always told that the wedges were the poor mans diverter. obviously fixed to one degree angle at a time, the diverter is a much friendlier piece as you can adjust it from the seat for varring water conditions. i personally feel that you do not need to run the wedges with the diverter as most boats sweet spot will be in the 2-10 degree adjustment range. as stated the diverter will give you 20 up or down more than a plenty for most boats, but for those that want more or a bigger rooster tail one can add wedges as desired. most boats will run their best with a rooster tail in the 4-6 foot height range. good boating

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    Diverters are fun to play with and most peeps like a lot of up for throwing rooster tails and doing wheelies. I like to cut a 3-4 degree angle on the back of the bowl for starters and then use wedges to get the optimum angle. in most cases, the boat will run faster w/o the diverter if the nozzle angle is set at the optimum place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    are you running a droop also?
    i was thinking about it,but no not yet if ever.
    the biggest problem i have with a droop has nothing to do with boat performance!
    with a droop, my boat will not fit in my garage!
    if i find that i can't live with out one, i will modify the back of my garage!!

    what are the pros and cons of a droop??

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieDave View Post
    Diverters are fun to play with and most peeps like a lot of up for throwing rooster tails and doing wheelies. I like to cut a 3-4 degree angle on the back of the bowl for starters and then use wedges to get the optimum angle. in most cases, the boat will run faster w/o the diverter if the nozzle angle is set at the optimum place.
    Went this route on myu SWTD but without angle cutting the bowl. It worked well on the big end, but it would do wheelstands out of the hole. I could never find the sweet spot with a good launch and top end do I went hyd. diverter. Its a must have for a river/lake boat and not an all out race boat.
    Just my opinion.
    I did however wedge the P/D down to get the pin about a 1/2" off the plate angle. Should really wake my turd up!

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    Default bowl wedge??

    i don't get bowl wedges? if you wedge the bowl, does that not screw with you wear ring alignment??
    how can you run .025 to .035 clearance if you wedge it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1975sleekcraft View Post
    i don't get bowl wedges? if you wedge the bowl, does that not screw with you wear ring alignment??
    how can you run .025 to .035 clearance if you wedge it??
    we are talking on the exit side....

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    They're talking about a wedge between the rear of the bowl and the steering nozzle housing, not between bowl and suction housing.

    Just install your diverter as is and go run the boat. Unlikely that you "need" any wedge at all.

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    I have been tiold to find the best speed angle for the diverter, then, wedge the diverter so that the diverter, set straight, is as close as possible to that angle.

    This way, you get the best speed setting, without bending the water stream more than once.
    Any additional bending or turning directions causes drag on the stream.
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    thanx for all the insight.

    anyone else???

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    I had a Miller jet boat (heavy hull) about the same HP as you, with a jacuzzi wj with diverter and 4* wedge. It liked the 4* wedge to get the hull further out of the water.
    Id say just bolt it on run it/play with it. Every boat is different and will handle different with wedge or with out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n8dawg View Post
    I had a Miller jet boat (heavy hull) about the same HP as you, with a jacuzzi wj with diverter and 4* wedge. It liked the 4* wedge to get the hull further out of the water.
    Id say just bolt it on run it/play with it. Every boat is different and will handle different with wedge or with out.
    I agree with this statement 100%. My old Kachina was the same way. Before setting the pump back, no droop, shoe, or rideplate and an old jetovator for trim. That boat loved 4 degrees of wedge. I have a theory as to why, but can't be sure. I think it was due to the boat having some hook in the bottom. No doubt about it though for whatever reason......that boat liked/needed some wedge to loosen it up.

    This will be difficult to put into words and I don't know why, but adding the wedge in was not the same as simply adjusting the diverter up a notch or two. Once again.........can't explain it, but somehow different and netted different results both gps'd and seat of the pants.

    I'd try it. Wedges are cheap (comparitively speaking) and an easy tuning tool. If nothing else it gives you an excuse to go to the lake and mess around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinLowriderSS View Post
    I have been tiold to find the best speed angle for the diverter, then wedge the diverter so that the diverter, set straight, is as close as possible to that angle.

    This way, you get the best speed setting, without bending the water stream more than once.
    Any additional bending or turning directions causes drag on the stream.
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