Power Wire and Starter Question
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread:
Power Wire and Starter Question

  1. #1
    Senior Member koyota93's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Orange County, CA
    Posts
    206

    Default Power Wire and Starter Question

    Ok, I have a 454, no idea what compression ratio. I use a car starter, and the thing barely cranks. It is a bottom mount and occasionally does get a little wet, but it barely cranked even when it was new. When you remove it from the engine and hot wire it with no load it spins freely and fast. My power to the boat is ran through the starter relay. Is that normal? Or should I run another wire to the battery for the boat power? Also what is everyone's opinion on the Hi-Torque Hitachi style starters? I saw some on ebay for $80. My buddy has one, not in a boat, and it works well.

    Oh and I am way to poor to buy a new housing to run a top mount starter.

  2. Remove Advertisements
    PerformanceBoats.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    Boat Nut sleekcrafter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    South Elgin, Il.
    Posts
    5,107

    Default

    clean the block where the starter bolts on, and also the ground wire attach point. Nothing wrong with car type starters, unless dealing with scape issues. Mini starters are better looking, work great when new, but can give you fitts, if it does get wet. Ask a round on the minis, and get some feed back on them, some are great, good, and junk.
    Upper Midwest Power Boat Association
    DRAG BOAT RACING UMPBA #926


  4. #3
    Senior Member Widetrack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Southwest corner AR
    Posts
    4,045

    Default

    You can also add a starter relay whitch helps alot! The power goes from the battery to the front then to the back of the boat to power the starter! This is a long ways and could have voltage drop. Also what is the timing set on? High timing will also cause starter drag! Hope you get it fixed! WT

    Coby

  5. #4
    Senior Member koyota93's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Orange County, CA
    Posts
    206

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Widetrack View Post
    You can also add a starter relay whitch helps alot! The power goes from the battery to the front then to the back of the boat to power the starter! This is a long ways and could have voltage drop. Also what is the timing set on? High timing will also cause starter drag! Hope you get it fixed! WT

    Coby
    Not sure what the timing is at. I never put a gun to it. The thing runs fine since the day I got it. It usually starts almost immediately with just 1-3 cranks. I don't know if the starter relay you are mentioning would be favorable for my boat. All of my power connections are on a distribution power block located next to the engine. I don't think it would make much sense in my case to run wire all the way to the front and risk a voltage drop.

  6. #5
    "It's HONDO, honey" Kyle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    AZ, Queen Creek
    Posts
    1,724

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by koyota93 View Post
    Ok, I have a 454, no idea what compression ratio. I use a car starter, and the thing barely cranks. It is a bottom mount and occasionally does get a little wet, but it barely cranked even when it was new. When you remove it from the engine and hot wire it with no load it spins freely and fast. My power to the boat is ran through the starter relay. Is that normal? Or should I run another wire to the battery for the boat power? Also what is everyone's opinion on the Hi-Torque Hitachi style starters? I saw some on ebay for $80. My buddy has one, not in a boat, and it works well.

    Oh and I am way to poor to buy a new housing to run a top mount starter.
    Get a new starter solenoid, 00 wire, Woludn't hurt to try to insulate that water issue.............. and I runa cheap a$$ duralast with 14.3 to one compression and it wings that motor over like a blender. And yes it really is 14.3 and it works just fine I know what you guys are thinking
    ___________________________________________
    _________________________________
    ___________

    "Chine walkin: (verb) - to show another brother that you will stay in to win. (syn.) Holy *hit!!!!!! Don't Lift!!!!!"

  7. #6
    E-7 Sheepdog (ret) SmokinLowriderSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Newton Ks.
    Posts
    6,834

    Default

    2-gauge wire is plenty since the run is so short, no need to go to 2/0, but it won't hurt anything.

    Clean ALL Connections, as well as the starter mount point.
    I would replace all the wires. They can corrode under the insulation, which increases resistance.

    The starter spinning great in the garage floor means almost nothing.
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken

    OBAMA: Some people deserve this.
    The rest of us are being dragged along kicking and screaming.

+ Reply to Thread

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Register Now

Please enter the name by which you would like to log-in and be known on this site.
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Tags for this Thread

Digg This Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91