That video from Muldera in the original post surprised me. I wasn't sure if an F1 boat would beat one of Australia's BAD boats. That Tuff Enuff boat has 1,500 horsepower and is built solely for circle racing. It just proves one thing - F1 boats are the king of short-course circle racing. And believe me that was a SHORT course, even by F1 boat standards. I Google earthed the race site, and the course they ran was no longer than a 3/4 mile long course. What surprised me as well is that the other tunnel outboard looked to be an F2 boat, and it hung right in there with the other BAD boats! I enjoy all the bantering on this site, but come on guys, we all know that boat racing is very diverse, and there is no one KING of boat racing. For those less educated, here is a short list of boat racing venues with the boat/engine/drive combinations that dominate each venue.
Closed course buoys - long course: Unlimited Hydros/turbine/v-drive (thanks for the education on the v-drive setup SS!)
Closed course buoys - short course: Formula One tunnels/outboard
Closed course offshore: Extreme Catamarans/turbine/shaft drive
1/4 mile drag race: Top Fuel Hydros/SC V8/v-drive
White water river racing: Aluminum Tunnels/SC V8/jet drive (yes, even the jets dominate some forms of boat racing!)
You guys can argue pleasure boat dominance all day long, because that's all just a matter of opinion. For me, best bang for the buck is my outboard tunnel, but that's just my opinion. I love my 160 mph Skater too, but it's just way too expensive for the fun it brings. I've honestly never owned a v-drive or a jet, because they're just too limited in their capabilities to me as a pleasure boat (rough water capability, reliability, interior room, etc.).
Keep up the good bantering though guys, it makes me laugh every time I see it!!!
I used to time the heats using the video camera time code. The fastest k boats were regularly half a lap quicker on a 1 mile 2 pin course than the mod U boats. The fastest Mod U boats we're quicker than the slower k's (as much as I hate to admit it ).
You know I respect your knowledge for truth, so I take that as fact. But why is it that when they run the tunnels against the K's in the same race, the tunnels seem to normally win? Is this because they were always endurance races that they ran against eachother in? Educate me a little more on this stuff, as you know my background is more in offshore. I'll be racing an F2 boat next year so I'd like to have my facts straight when shooting the shit with the guys. As you already know, I have a lot of respect for the K-boats (I was actually pretty serious about building a sister to K69 last year 'till my business dropped off!). And speaking of K-boats, how do you think Tony/Dave are going to do against those BAD boats in Australia? I think they're going to have a rough go of it, seeing as they are racing against them in their conditions (longer, rougher course). I do hope they pull off a victory for us, but those BAD boats are pretty bad-ass!
agreed jangles that whacker is running damn wet and also the motor is mounted pretty damn low you throw a true tunnel boat against that v drive and a stock 260 with a jack plate or at least a motor mounted correctly and a good prop and that v drive is toast. i personally have a stock 260 on my daytona and i know my boat runs a hell of alot more out of the water and would put a spanking on that v drive if i ran mine with two people and mid tanks of fuel and my daytona is nothing compared to the STV or mirages that ive seen
but then again im just saying.
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K's don't run endurance races. They used to run 5 lap heats but that's been shortened to 4 at most venues in the southwest.
When timing the outboards, I used times from the last 5 laps because as the fuel depleted the lap times got better.
IMO, Tony and Dave are disadvantaged being that they're in a different place with different rules. They have a loaner boat that will be different than K-69 in several ways (and small block powered).
Our K boats have run very long courses in the past successfully. IMO, the problem is the down under boys have a few boats that aren't completely flat across the bottom making the race water rougher than a pure flatbottom race would be.
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Those little out"bored" boats are gay as *** and about as much fun to watch as a stupid jet ski race!
It's not that i don't care, I just dont give a sh!t!
Having a outboard that faster than a V-drive is like have a fat chick that gives great blow jobs. At the end of the day, there's not much to brag about.
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