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About LinkBacksFirst outboard. Is it normal for it to take two men and a boy to steer the boat (22 DCB single) at speed? The steering is also choppy at speed. Let off the throttle it is smooth as buttler.
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First outboard. Is it normal for it to take two men and a boy to steer the boat (22 DCB single) at speed? The steering is also choppy at speed. Let off the throttle it is smooth as buttler.
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None of my hydraulic systems have been hard to steer. Should be able to steer with one hand.
We need a little more infoOriginally Posted by convincor
do you have a front or sidemount steering
do you know who's system ie teleflex,seastar,lathem,imco,1275v cappalino
You can have a mis matched helm and ram assy ie balanced vs inbalanced
side mount imco
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The problem you have is everything is wrong from imcoside mount imco
The helm is a cappalino 1275 helm it must have a balanced flow in and out of the helm,you have a inbalanced system. That is the locking feeling in the helm you experanced
The second part of the problem is the steering geometery on the motor plate it allows it to push past 90 deg thus becoming over center
Imco is in complete denial of their problem, However, I spoke to mfg (cappalino)about my problems
I made my own engine plate with relocated steering pivot location to push to 90 deg. turns out to be the same spacing as Latham marine
I installed a second ram ( imco does have a adaptor to run a second ram) it replaces the nut
You need to add a vent line to the helm
This is what it takes to make work for us,
You also have the option of changing to a Hynautic helm and tank this will work with inbalanced system
call lathem marine steering they know what they are talking about my next steering system will be from Latham.
Last edited by BigSteve; 06-23-2011 at 09:37 PM.
You have the same steering that I have on my Trick 21 w/ 300XS, and yes, it takes a lot of muscleing to turn the wheel. The chopiness you refer to is air in the system (I believe), because until I bled mine completely it felt choppy also. Unfortunately, every side mount hydraulic system I've had on my outboards is a workout to steer. The Sea Star Pro system does not take near as much force to turn the motor, but it's also not as strong as what you have. If it really bothers you, there are a few manufacturers that offer an electric power assist system which makes the wheel easy to turn. I look at it as I'm getting an additional workout with my driving duties through the day (which are frequently 200+ miles long).
Dale, the chopiness is the valve in the helm, it needs to see even flow in and out according to the mfg
If you use the Sea Star pro complete system with the Sea Star power assist pump you will be able to steer the boat with 1 finger at top speed. At 115 mph mine is effortless.
It's worth the effort to change over. VERY important ! With the sea star and all other hydraulic systems air is big trouble in the system....air can cause it to lock up....when you install whatever System I would bleed it a couple of times to make sure ALL the air is out.
Thanks for the repleys. It is not that I can't steer the boat, it just doesn't feel right. If you let out of the throttle a little bit while you are muscling the wheel it get easy and you end up over steering. Was just wondering if this is normal (first outboard) and I need to just get used to it or if there was an easy fix.
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Hey Steve, none of my Capilano helms have felt choppy except when they aren't bled properly. I honestly spend over an hour bleeding my steering systems when I first put them together (my arms are always ready to fall off when I'm done) and I typically never have a problem. I know you've went way above and beyond with The Canoe steering, but my Trick with Capilano/Imco steering feels the same as all the rest of my Capilano helmed outboard steering systems.
Hope to boat with you on sunday, Bullhead Bully gave us the Imco system to run Parker
Bully had the sidemount on the STV with the seastar helm and power steering pump at first
It had problems because of a inbalanced fluid flow
Lathem sells the Capilino helm for twin engine set ups because they are balanced flow and a hynautic helm for the inbalanced apps
I spoke to the head enginner for Capilino and he told me over time it damages the internal valves if the system isn't balanced
Hey Steve I still haven't received the spare helm....speaking of steering.
The Rev has it !!!
I will see He ships it.
I seem to have a love hate relationship with the War Canoe steering.
I love the way it holds course and takes comands under extreme conditions
And I hate how mush effort it takes
I need the Lathem power steering steering system you have in your 22 Daytona set up
First class all the way
Last edited by BigSteve; 06-26-2011 at 05:13 PM.
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