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    Just Got my new Flat home and want to start working on it. It is an older boat and hasn't been taken care of very well. The construction appears to be first rate, but the years of sitting uncovered in the sun has taken it's toll. The floor looks like it is covered with dry cloth. I am willing to strip out all the rigging and refinish the floor and stringers, I'd like them to look good and am willing to do the work. A Flo-Coat finish if possible but I don't know if the floor is too far gone for that. I'd hate to be forced to paint the floors. This boat will be raced, and raced hard, but I'd still like it to look as good as possible.
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    Wow .......from the l@@ks of things that finish fabric / cheese cloth / surf board fabric is very dry & looks like 6 or 8 oz but i could be wrong .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Wow .......from the l@@ks of things that finish fabric / cheese cloth / surf board fabric is very dry & looks like 6 or 8 oz but i could be wrong .
    Ok, thanks. What's that mean??

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    Quote Originally Posted by phughes SS-13 View Post
    Ok, thanks. What's that mean??
    From what i can see in your pics the fabric looks very dry which in my opinion means only one thing , and that is................ the material was not wetted out properly or should i say they should have used more resin during there layup .

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    wouldn't even try it without a couple of sacks of dollar bills handy ...
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    Alright, I'll try this another way.

    If I were to grind/sand the floor down to the point where where the dryed out laminate is removed. Then build it back up with a fresh layer of resin and cloth, taking care to use the proper resin to cloth ratio, and used a quality finish cloth. Would this be an acceptable first step in achieving the results I desire?? There are many holes in the stringers that need to be filled. If I use an epoxy filler will I then be able to glass over the patches/plugs to maintain a consistent surface finish? Or will useing epoxy as a filler media creat an adhesion issue for the new polyester and glass top layer? What would be the best way to approach this project? Thanks.

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    You won't really know where you stand until you remove all of that dry cloth.if the wood isnt black and rotten,you should be able to re-glass it without problems.if it were me,I would fill the holes in the stringers almost to the surface with Durams rock-hard (home depot) or whatever someone who knows better suggests,then fill the surface of the hole with a wood putty that matches your stringer color.

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    What's the rest of the boat look like? What is it, year and make and model?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phughes SS-13 View Post
    Alright, I'll try this another way.

    If I were to grind/sand the floor down to the point where where the dryed out laminate is removed. Then build it back up with a fresh layer of resin and cloth, taking care to use the proper resin to cloth ratio, and used a quality finish cloth. Would this be an acceptable first step in achieving the results I desire?? There are many holes in the stringers that need to be filled. If I use an epoxy filler will I then be able to glass over the patches/plugs to maintain a consistent surface finish? Or will useing epoxy as a filler media creat an adhesion issue for the new polyester and glass top layer? What would be the best way to approach this project? Thanks.
    First off , if you are going to use epoxy for anything , and decide to go with Poly you most definitely will have an adhesion issue and yes you can sand / grind to the point where the dryed out laminate is removed which would be a very first acceptable step but .................... like mentioned above what hidden issues lie underneath the laminate and does any of the flooring feel spongy , look or appear blackish and just curious can any of that laminate on the floor be peeled away by hand considering the actual layup is not very resin rich .
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    Just curious , in your first three pics i notice a U- Shape crack in the laminate / flooring / ply ..................................?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Just curious , in your first three pics i notice a U- Shape crack in the laminate / flooring / ply ..................................?
    I believe what you are seeing is a water stain, basically a dried puddle. The boat is about a '77, not exactly sure of the year. The floor, other than the lack of resin, seems to be in fine shape. Nothing soft or spongy and no dark spots. I used a screwdriver handle to tap on the floor, working my way around the boat and could find no discernible change in tone. No dull thud. There are a couple of places on the stringers that may need a bit of extra attention, but the general condition of the stringers appears quite good. There may be a suprise waiting for me, hidden under the white tablecloth, but I think not. If there is, I will deal with it.

    I do appreciate your assistance.

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    you may be able to use a 6" sheetrock knife to get under that cloth and lift it off with less mess than sanding. Could be the floor wasn't prepped any better than it was finished.If your lucky,it may peel off in large sheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronboats View Post
    you may be able to use a 6" sheetrock knife to get under that cloth and lift it off with less mess than sanding. Could be the floor wasn't prepped any better than it was finished.If your lucky,it may peel off in large sheets.
    A couple of pics where I have wet the floor. In the first pic I used alcohol the other is just a puddle of water. The white splotches are actually just a reflection.
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    I hope these "Wet" pics can provide some insight as to the condition of the floor.

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