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    my boat (the one as my avatar) has metal flake in the brown stripes and no matter what i do they wont stay shined for very long and feel rough. All the yellow is good and smooth and stays shiny. My question is on the brown parts of the boat is the gel gone or is there something i can do about it. Like i said the yellow is near perfect and a little wax and it stays shiny but not the brown with the flake. Any help would be awesome.

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    Pics would really help and how old is the boat - year ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesblown97 View Post
    my boat (the one as my avatar) has metal flake in the brown stripes and no matter what i do they wont stay shined for very long and feel rough.
    Just curious ...............when you say rough do you feel that the flakes are exposed to the touch or .....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Just curious ...............when you say rough do you feel that the flakes are exposed to the touch or .....................
    clear it with a good uretrhane clear, or use clear gel coat if you have the experience to deal with it

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    the boat is a 73 and it feels really gritty like running your hand over fine sand paper not smooth like the rest of the boat ill try to get some pics tonight

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    if you can feel the flake I dont think you can sand it that would mess up the metal flake for sure you may have to just mask it and clear it a hope the flake that you can feel holds the clear on.and only hand wash after that no pressure washer directly at it that might peal it off. its hard to say with out lookin at it. before I got my boat someone cleared the top half and they sanded it before the cleared but I was takin fineline tape messing around seein if I could add some flames on the bow and the tape pulled the clear off !!! so I ended up taking a razer blade and stripping the clear off the bow and sanding the edge and buffed the sand scratches out of the gel.I remember someone told me that atomotive clear doent stick to gelcoat very good unless you sand it with a coarser git than you would on a car. maybe offshore ginger can explain it better.

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    Default Get House of Kolor candy root beer brown intensifier about $30 for a pint

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    Your flakes are turning silver and faded. So here is a way cool trick. (Intensifier is 1/2 pint and very strong pigment that is transparent and will recolor the old faded flakes)

    The photo above is air brushed carbon fiber...silver over black...then candy intensifier....then .008" flakes...then straight clear coat. So...without the carbon fiber effect...this should look close to what you have.

    Tape off the area. Add about an ounce or two of intensifier to about 2/3 of a quart of activated and reduced ready to spray urethane clear coat. Apply three or so medium coats over the brown flake. Get a feel for it...it can be sprayed dryer with high pressure and not a flow coat so that you can control how brown you want to make it.

    At this point...top coat it with 2 wet coats of clear.

    If you want to...the following day you can gray scottsbrite the stripe...tack it...then apply some .008" brown metalflake over the candy brown you just sprayed. These flake sparkle bright and will flow through a 1.5 tip no problem. mix about three tablespoons per qt of sprayable clear.
    If it packs up in the gravity cup...dial back the air pressure and put your finger over the air cap where the paint comes out and pull the trigger...it will back flow and mix the flakes back up into the cup.

    Add two or three coats of straight clear after the flakes are on.

    I have the flake if you need it. Your stock size is .015" these are .008" but sparkle awesome in the sun.
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    Have you done anything to paint yet, I have sprayed metal flakes for seems like twenty years, if you want my opinion let me know. I've shot over gel coats many times and actually prefer the base lol.
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