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    Default anyone try this graphite paint from tractor supply?

    I know thats where i found it was someone put the link up on here but i was wondering if anyone ever had and experiance with it i bought a pint and sprayed some and it dont seem to be exaxtly like the speed coat i have normally seen used but it seems like it might work and its cheap and local? Opinions please? Thanks

    http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/ez-slide-graphite-based-coating-1-qt

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    Quote Originally Posted by glastornjet73 View Post
    I know thats where i found it was someone put the link up on here but i was wondering if anyone ever had and experiance with it i bought a pint and sprayed some and it dont seem to be exaxtly like the speed coat i have normally seen used but it seems like it might work and its cheap and local? Opinions please? Thanks

    EZ-Slide Graphite Based Coating, 1 qt. - Tractor Supply Online Store
    Hi, cheap and local is not a good thing. What are you trying to accomplish by using the product you picked up? And depending on your answer are you willing to pay a little more for exceptional results?

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    Default What??

    Other than being local and inexpensive, and not having the word "Marine" printed on the label, is there an actual problem with using this product?? If there is an actual reason to not use this stuff I'd be interested in knowing what it is. Someone must have some experience with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glastornjet73 View Post
    I know thats where i found it was someone put the link up on here but i was wondering if anyone ever had and experiance with it i bought a pint and sprayed some and it dont seem to be exaxtly like the speed coat i have normally seen used but it seems like it might work and its cheap and local? Opinions please? Thanks

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    I have used a John Deer product. Spray it on right out of the can, let dry, then scuff it with 1000 or finer grit. You probable did not rub it out with anything and that's why it is not as slippery to say the least. Try that first! It works pretty good. Troy

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    Quote Originally Posted by APOLLO View Post
    I have used a John Deer product. Spray it on right out of the can, let dry, then scuff it with 1000 or finer grit. You probable did not rub it out with anything and that's why it is not as slippery to say the least. Try that first! It works pretty good. Troy
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    Other than being local and inexpensive, and not having the word "Marine" printed on the label, is there an actual problem with using this product?? If there is an actual reason to not use this stuff I'd be interested in knowing what it is. Someone must have some experience with this.
    Yes, I think if you are attempting to make your hull slick, faster, etc better choices are available that actually work. I will coat some new epoxy carbon fiber panels that I just prepped and then apply three different coatings and post up the pics to depict gravitational load of a micro-liter of water on the various substrate treatments. Not only do I have experience with this stuff I manufacture product that puts graphite to shame.
    Added at 6:36pm: Just cut a section of CF sheet to make 3 4"x4" squares. Each is carbon fiber twill weave in Epoxy Resin, will coat them tonight and try and get back to this tomorrow.Click image for larger version. 

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    I spray my props with it seems to work ok

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    Years ago some of the old time racers or should i say old school would have us spray the bottom of there 40 Skaters with Teflon with little or no gains at all , and to tell you the truth in the past i have seen more gains with a sanded surface opposed to products that are designed to make the hull more slippery .
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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Years ago some of the old time racers or should i say old school would have us spray the bottom of there 40 Skaters with Teflon with little or no gains at all , and to tell you the truth in the past i have seen more gains with a sanded surface opposed to products that are designed to make the hull more slippery .
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    RPB , if you do not mind me asking just where is your location ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Years ago some of the old time racers or should i say old school would have us spray the bottom of there 40 Skaters with Teflon with little or no gains at all , and to tell you the truth in the past i have seen more gains with a sanded surface opposed to products that are designed to make the hull more slippery .
    If the stuff doesn't really work for bottom application, what is the best way to remove it? It was put on my hull before I owned it, it looks like crap, it worn off in places and that area needs to be refinished. I had just planned on recoating the area with the speed coat but I will not if it is not worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPB View Post
    Yes, I think if you are attempting to make your hull slick, faster, etc better choices are available that actually work. I will coat some new epoxy carbon fiber panels that I just prepped and then apply three different coatings and post up the pics to depict gravitational load of a micro-liter of water on the various substrate treatments. Not only do I have experience with this stuff I manufacture product that puts graphite to shame.
    Added at 6:36pm: Just cut a section of CF sheet to make 3 4"x4" squares. Each is carbon fiber twill weave in Epoxy Resin, will coat them tonight and try and get back to this tomorrow.Click image for larger version. 

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    Sorry for the delay. the first pic (a) is the CF epoxy panel laying flat with two micro-liters of water. The next pix (b) is the panel at vertical with water still clinging. Next set of pictures will consist of a surface treatment that is sold online and appears to be very popular. A third set of images will show a panel treated with a very popular graphite from an aerosol can. The fourth, and it might not be until next week is something that actualy works.

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ID:	304737Pic A: microliters on CF epoxy and no surface treatment horizontal
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ID:	304745Pic B: microliters on CF epoxy and no surface treatment veritical. Arrow showing water adhering to panel.

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ID:	304865Pic C: CF Epoxy treated with aerosal spary product at Horizontal. The panel is difficult to photograph because of its reflective nature but in the lowerf left corner you may be able to make out the slight milky white opaque coating.

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ID:	304873Pic D; Epoxy treated with aerosal spray product at vertical. White arrows show what remains of the microliter.
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    Wow i aint been on and this thread didnt have any replies at all lol so i guess the consensis is that it probly wont be worth spraying the bottom of my boat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Years ago some of the old time racers or should i say old school would have us spray the bottom of there 40 Skaters with Teflon with little or no gains at all , and to tell you the truth in the past i have seen more gains with a sanded surface opposed to products that are designed to make the hull more slippery .


    Funny, my ski buddies used to freak when I would scuff the bottom of a brand new slalom ski in order to make it just a bit faster across the wake. Same principal! Jocko

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    Quote Originally Posted by glastornjet73 View Post
    Wow i aint been on and this thread didnt have any replies at all lol so i guess the consensis is that it probly wont be worth spraying the bottom of my boat?
    I will get off my lazy azz and post the pics of the graphite tomorrow

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