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    Hi, I am getting a runner bottom Vdrive that needs paint. The guy I am getting it from has sanded down all the original coat.
    What would be the proper steps for prep and paint, and/or would gel coat be better?
    What product would be best and easier to work with?


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    Mike , just curious are you going to be leaving the boat in the water for long periods of time , and to tell you the truth even though Gel is very durable i favor Imron and Awlgrip using Imron the most considering in my opinion spraying gel is way to much work from start to finish .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Mike , just curious are you going to be leaving the boat in the water for long periods of time , and to tell you the truth even though Gel is very durable i favor Imron and Awlgrip using Imron the most considering in my opinion spraying gel is way to much work from start to finish .
    I will be leaving it in the water over the weekends. I also want to make the inside shinny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy_Mike View Post
    I will be leaving it in the water over the weekends. I also want to make the inside shinny!
    Mike , to tell you the truth i do not recomend leaving a boat in the water for long periods of time if the bottom has a painted surface which often can and will lead to blistering ( paint ) opposed to gel which is more durable and can withstand being left in the water for longer periods of time with no problems . Mike , just curious at this point in time just for shits and giggles ....seeing that you need to re shoot the bottom with paint or gel have you taken a straight edge to the bottom of the hull just to see how straight the running surface truely is ............-----........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFSHORE GINGER View Post
    Mike , to tell you the truth i do not recomend leaving a boat in the water for long periods of time if the bottom has a painted surface which often can and will lead to blistering ( paint ) opposed to gel which is more durable and can withstand being left in the water for longer periods of time with no problems . Mike , just curious at this point in time just for shits and giggles ....seeing that you need to re shoot the bottom with paint or gel have you taken a straight edge to the bottom of the hull just to see how straight the running surface truely is ............-----........................
    Thanks for the heads up on weekend soaks. I did not think about blistering. I have not done anything to it, I have seen it, but I will not have it in my possession for a few weeks. I am sure it will need to be blue printed on the bottom. The hull has been stripped and sanded down. All the hardware is there including the box, drive line and engine mounts. It's minus engine basically. It has no damage, or de-lamination. He is into hydros and has a single seat Hondo. So he lost interest n the Record runner bottom.

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    I took a good look at it. The bottom still has the original gel coat and is a runner bottom. The sides and top are sanded down to fiber glass, and the floors look like they will polish up. What I don't know is what filler sealer primer or paint to use. I do like metal flake and want it to be clean. So what materials should I use?

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    Just my two cents here...If the bottom hasn't been trued recently have it done or checked and go with Imron, Ginger is not steering you wrong here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPB View Post
    Just my two cents here...If the bottom hasn't been trued recently have it done or checked and go with Imron, Ginger is not steering you wrong here.
    I am deffinately going to do that. Is Imron the sealer?

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    check with Ginger but I would go with duratec primer first

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    Something I found while doing research for my project. That most fillers have talc to give it body and resin to make it stick. The problem is talc absorbs water and will swell if your paint/seal is compromised.
    I could not find a body filler without talc. Even the "marine" filler had talk in it. What I did was mix my own filler using micro spheres and cabosil with epoxy resin. The microspheres are nonhydroscopic, meaning they do not asorb water. The cabosil will help make it thick. And the epoxy will stick to anything, even metal. Be careful with epoxy though, gel coat is a polyester base and will not be compatable with it.
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    schick what do you think cabosil is?

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    You are correct. The microspheres will thicken it all on its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdsheppie View Post
    check with Ginger but I would go with duratec primer first
    Express Composites' line of Duratec Products i use the hell out of Duratec 714-003 ( white ) which is a great all a round high build primer , and can be sprayed on up to 50 mills wet on wet , and not to mention that i use this primer when ever i blueprint a bottom weather it is going to be a painted or gel coated surface .

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