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    Hey Group,

    1st off, this is my 1st post to the forum but I have been lurking for awhile now. Lots of good data for sure! I've been in the market for a boat for a little bit and finally went to go see what I felt was THE ONE this afternoon. It's not perfect but by all means it's a cool boat. '75 Sanger Runner Bottom with a BBC and rigged fairly well. Needs lots of TLC and polishing but aside from that its a great boat. However I noticed a few things that I felt needed a better review so I thought this was the place to chat about it.....

    I can't see any cracks in the floors or along the stringer areas and the boat does seem relatively clean. It once had carpet in the side areas of the boat and the current owner removed these and worked for many hours on removing the glue residue and trying to clean up the inside of the boat. There are traces of old glue here and there but for the most part he did well. The center section, between the stringers is painted and look cool but it's obviously old and cracked/faded etc... There is a weird Milky white appearance that I can see in the middle of the the floor on both sides of the motor area. The front of the boat doesn't exhibit this at all but in the back it shows up pretty well right in the middle of the floor between the stringer and the side of the boat. The floor appears normal, i.e. wood colored on the far sides and then again close into the stringers. My fear is that the boat is de-laminating in this zone or has potential water damage of some sort? However there are no cracks or signs of damage anywhere? The boat is super solid and you can't feel any movement in these areas but for some reason the white appearance is bothering me? Is this typical? Or is it a sure sign of a future Shit Fiesta in the hull of the boat?

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    Have you tried sanding it and polishing the side areas where the carpet was? Mine had carpet also and I ripped it all out of the back. There was white 'residue' from water accumulation under the carpets which is normal. But it didnt have any affect on the fiberglass IF there is no cracks between the glass and wood for that water to enter. The residue is simply by products of whatever was in the water after it dried. It polished right out.

    carpet that is glued in will always be just asking for trouble.....
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    Have you tried sanding it and polishing the side areas where the carpet was? Mine had carpet also and I ripped it all out of the back. There was white 'residue' from water accumulation under the carpets which is normal. But it didnt have any affect on the fiberglass IF there is no cracks between the glass and wood for that water to enter. The residue is simply by products of whatever was in the water after it dried. It polished right out.

    carpet that is glued in will always be just asking for trouble.....
    I'm so happy you responded to this! I was looking at pictures of your boat last night and noticed the same thing in one or two of the interior shots. My first time looking at this boat was yesterday and I was trying to capture anything that would be a potential deal breaker. I want to make sure I'm buying something that can be Gucci'ed out in the future but I really don't want to get into major glass repair as part of that process. Paint and polish is fine by me but cutting the damn boat apart sounds like it's way beyond my price range.... I think this boat is solid from what I can tell and I just wish they had never put that damn carpet in there!

    So, to answer your question, No I haven't sanded and polished yet, but I will most likely get into this during the cleaning process.

    Thanks so much!

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    tap inside and outside of the white area with something solid like a socket and listen for differences. If its delam or disbonding you will hear a difference
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    Looks like you have a pretty nice starting point there with your boat.... Yea the carpets should never be glued in, they are always gonna get wet and they have to be removed to dry out, even the outdoor carpets will retain water and mold badly. Thats what stains the floors.

    I still have some carpet forward of the seats on the sides that has to come out but I have mostly eliminated the water that gets to the side by plugging the holes at the rear of the stringers with champagne corks!... lol Any water that gets in the boat now (not much since I replaced all the seepage things with D21 parts) stays within the bilge area.

    My floors are a whole nother project that will come in the future possibly, but the carpet IS nice on bare feet and NOT SLIPPERY when climbing into the boat from a dock or likewise.
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    Thanks again for the great info! I decided to pass on this boat as my "Dream Boat" surfaced and fell in my lap night before last. If anyone is interested in this killer Bubble Deck just let me know and I'll connect you up with Craig. I think I will list it for him in the classifieds but I haven't confirmed that yet. I believe he would take somewhere around $7000 for this boat.

    Trailer completely rebuilt with new tires
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    lots of good stuff and the boat is rigged really well.

    Cheers,

    Robert M.

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