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    Default lots of balsa questions please help

    so i was thinking of going carbon fiber on the floor of my flat but the material alone is very expensive on top of the epoxy resin and everything else. I've decided to look into other avenues I've always loved the look of a clean balsa floor. my situation is this the floors of my kurtis are glass over wood and were cracked thew the top layer of glass mat. the wood and stringers are very solid just needs glass repaired. my plan is to remove all the glass down to the first layer of material. so my questions are..can i leave the remaining glass on top of the wood that is not damaged or does all the glass have to come out down to wood?? what all does it entail to install balsa flooring? what type of resins are required for the balsa? where can i buy/where do you buy your balsa from? is there a way to change the color or appearance of the balsa such as different types or maybe staining it? I'm sure ill think of more questions as i progress in my work WHAT A MESS! thanks for the help in advance this is my first time getting this deep into fiberglass work.
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    Looks like the floor is just cracked from age and sunlight. Not a horrible situation to repair. Polyester resin works well with carbon fibre so you can skip the epoxy if cost is the problem. You will need to grind/sand the floors to remove the cracks, OR... at least grind the cracks out then fill them in. The tough part of the job will be to keep the floors flat so that when you recover it (using either balsa or carbon fibre) the finished product will be smooth. I don't think I'd try to put a layer of balsa on the existing floor, I'd use a veneer or go with the carbon fibre.

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    Personally I would address those cracks on the bottom of the hull / floor due to the fact that over a period of time they can and will get worse maybe causing a bigger problem then need be ( rot ) and not to mention that there is a place here in Mich where you can purchase supplies depending on what you actually need and want Michigan Fiberglass Sales - 48080 - Resins : Polyester : Epoxy : Gel Coat : Vacuum Bagging : Carbon Fiber : Kevlar : Fiberglass Michigan and if you are going to be using Epoxy which in my opinion would be a wise choice I would suggest going with #635 sold by us composites because it offers the most bang for your buck Epoxy Resins and Hardeners :Â*US Composites and have you given much thought on maybe using a colored fabric or aluminized colored fabric's but non the less check these people out . Composite Reinforcement Fabrics Quick note if you decide to go with a colored fabric , High bred , carbon fiber , or ...............you just might want to consider going with a clear Epoxy resin for cosmetic appearance but that is your call .

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    some of the samples i laid out from fiberglass.com and more photos of the floor progress
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    To tell you the truth I would skip the thicker weaves because you will want a fabric that is manageable and not to mention these people have much more to offer as far as Carbon Fiber goes which is a link I forgot to post earlier . http://www.sollercomposites.com,carbon fiber,carbon fiber sleeve,Kevlar sleeve, fiberglass sleeves,carbon fiber fabric,epoxy,west system epoxy,nitrile,gloves,nitrile gloves,aramid,fiberglass,kevlar,tape,biaxial tape, biaxial sleeve

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    I think this might help you decide on just what weave to consider before purchasing. fabricchoice & Untitled Document
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    you sir are the man soller composite is much more reasonable on the price of materials by far. next question will the finshed product can the #635 resin be polished up or does it require another type of top coat?? also will this resin require a uv protection type coating swell like the durateck sunshield ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdriver71 View Post
    you sir are the man soller composite is much more reasonable on the price of materials by far. next question will the finshed product can the #635 resin be polished up or does it require another type of top coat?? also will this resin require a uv protection type coating swell like the durateck sunshield ?
    The bottom line is ....................how far would you like to take this and how would you like the finished surface to look ,and are you going to stick with a Carbon Fiber that's totally black and not to mention I started using this product a few years back with great results . https://www.kbs-coatings.com/DiamondFinish-Clear.html no yellowing @ this point in time considering everyone I know most likely keep's there boat in a garage and covered but then again like mentioned above you just might want to consider using a water clear Epoxy resin for cosmetic appearance or the # 635 which is semi clear if you use there slow hardener but then again that is your call .

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    Ginger, Thanks for the links as it has given me some great ideas.

    That is what I love about these forums, even if the original topic did not apply to me, the info inside may have been what I needed.

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    Here is another members boat on this forum who used KBS .
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    Paul , my pleasure , and just curious how did the links give you a great / better idea ........................

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    [QUOTE=OFFSHORE GINGER;4273570][QUOTE=fc
    Paul , my pleasure , and just curious how did the links give you a great / better idea ........................[/QUOTE]

    The carbon sleeves open up some ideas to improve some of my rigging. Some for strength and some for beauty.

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    soller composites is the shit for sure they will send me any samples i want for free dude that kills fiberglast.com they charged me 50 bucks for their sample pack. not to mention the guy answerd the phone after hours on his way out the door great guy very helpful thanks for the recommendation!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdriver71 View Post
    soller composites is the shit for sure they will send me any samples i want for free dude that kills fiberglast.com they charged me 50 bucks for their sample pack. not to mention the guy answerd the phone after hours on his way out the door great guy very helpful thanks for the recommendation!!!
    Very nice people and not to mention there prices .

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