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    We haven't had a good pit bull thread for awhile, this caught my eye in the news feed. Most pit bulls are good dogs imo and get a very bad rap just because they look like pit bulls (even dogs that aren't pit bulls), and it is pit bull owners that are the majority of the problem where problems occur.

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    Despite a global outcry from animal rights activists, a dog was put to sleep in Belfast, Northern Ireland, on Wednesday because city officials said he looked like a pit bull.

    The 7-year-old pug-nosed dog, Lennox, was at the center of a two-year legal battle between his owners and the Belfast City Council. The city's dog wardens seized Lennox in 2010, claiming he was a dangerous "pit bull-type dog," according to The Associated Press. Pit bulls are illegal in the United Kingdom.

    Lennox's owners argued he was not only not dangerous—he was not even a pit bull. In court, Lennox's owner Caroline Barnes said the dog had never bitten anyone, but that she would muzzle him around strangers.

    The case sparked outrage among animal rights groups, inspiring a "Save Lennox" campaign and an online petition that collected more than 200,000 signatures. Some people—including celebrity dog trainer Victoria Stilwell—offered to adopt the dog in the United States, where pit bulls are legal.

    But last month, a senior appeals court in Northern Ireland upheld a lower court ruling that called for Lennox to be put down.

    In a statement, the City Council said an expert "described the dog as one of the most unpredictable and dangerous dogs he had come across," and that it had no choice but to euthanize him.

    City Council members said they have received death threats, part of what they called "a sustained campaign of abuse."

    "We've had dog wardens who had to leave their homes," one Belfast City Council member told the BBC. "We've had petrol poured through letter boxes, we've had people named on the Web."

    On Tuesday, Lennox's owners released a statement on their Facebook page, saying they were denied the opportunity to "say goodbye":

    We would like to take this opportunity to thank you all again for your messages of support. We are sorry to say at the present time Belfast city council seem to be intent on killing our boy. Despite previous assurances otherwise, we have been denied the opportunity to say goodbye. We have also been told that we cannot collect his body and bring Len home. We have been informed however that we will receive "some" ashes in the mail.

    On Twitter, the outrage over Lennox's death was widespread.

    "Utterly shameful," Gary Numan, the musician, wrote.

    "Belfast Council are disgraceful!" singer Samantha Fox wrote. "Terrible decision. Gutted."

    "Humans are the cruelest animals on the planet," the user Cunning Linguist tweeted.

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    Can't stand Pit Bulls. They should impose a special tax on all their owners to make up for all the injuries they cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-2 View Post
    Can't stand Pit Bulls. They should impose a special tax on all their owners to make up for all the injuries they cause.
    It's not the breed it's the owner. Give them any big dog and it'll most likely end in the same result.

    It's not the breeds fault it attracks so many people that have no clue how to handle a dog.

    Hypothetically, this would be like saying a specific human race needs to be eliminated based on their elevated illegal behaviors when in fact it's generally said the behavior is becuase of the environemnt in which they live in grow. So if pitbulls are bad just becuase of the breed, then so is the race with elevated illegal behaviors.
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    If you're going to get rid of one breed, why stop, do away with all breed's. I've been biten by more rug rat dogs the pits. just my .02.

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    Come on, pits suck. You never read about people being mauled by Chihuahua's. Bit, yes. Mauled, no. Screw pits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-2 View Post
    Come on, pits suck. You never read about people being mauled by Chihuahua's. Bit, yes. Mauled, no. Screw pits.
    Are you kidding?

    People suck. they're always killing others. we should euthanize people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-2 View Post
    Come on, pits suck. You never read about people being mauled by Chihuahua's. Bit, yes. Mauled, no. Screw pits.
    If Chihuahuas were big, based on the people who own them, how they let them behave and the environment they put them in, they would "maul" people.

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    I have no desire to ever own a dog that is known specifically for it's ability to kill, or that's known to be accountable for approx 30-45% of all dog attacks on humans..

    A man was killed by his 2 pitbulls several years ago out here. He had been missing for a couple days, and a neighbor (or something) went to look for him and found his badly dismembered body in the back yard.. and the 2 pits playing with the body parts.... no thanks
    I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    If Chihuahuas were big, based on the people who own them, how they let them behave and the environment they put them in, they would "maul" people.
    You might be right... but they're not are they.
    I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by 28Eliminator View Post
    I have no desire to ever own a dog that is known specifically for it's ability to kill, or that's known to be accountable for approx 30-45% of all dog attacks on humans..

    A man was killed by his 2 pitbulls several years ago out here. He had been missing for a couple days, and a neighbor (or something) went to look for him and found his badly dismembered body in the back yard.. and the 2 pits playing with the body parts.... no thanks
    If labs became the dirtbag dog of choice you'd be saying the same thing about labs in 20 years.

    The fact is, probably more than half the people that own dogs shouldn't have one.

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    extinct the breed. if my yorkie bites someone you dont have to hit it with a 2x4 50 times to get it to let go. the whole "its not the breed its the owner" is such bullshit.


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    How come Golden retrieves, black labs, irish setters, St. Bernards and whole host of other dogs don't attack people and kill everything in the neighborhood when they are raised by "bad owners"?

    I know ther are exceptions and these dogs occasionally bite a person, but nowhere on the % scale of pit bulls. Not to mention the difference in damage they do when a pit bull does attack.

    10 years ago our neighbors had the nicest pit bull, I loved that dog. The people were friendly as all hell and a very fun and polite family. They raised that dog with all the love any person could give.

    My 75 year old father came over for a visit. As he was getting out of his car, that friendly and loving pit bull came chargig out of their yard and latched onto my fathers crotch. Heard the screaming and came running out. The owner of the dog and I tried to get the pit to release, no luck. 10 minutes and pops in shock and bleeding like a fountan, over extreme objections of the dogs owner. I cut that bitches throat. The owner of the Pitt was tring to pull me off his dog. Police, ambulance, That pit ripped his testiclas and penis almost off. 3 months in intensive care. Neighbor sued me for the value of his pitt, and lost. My father sued the neighbor and won 400K (policy limit was 200K) Pops got the money, their house, cars and any other assetts they had.

    Why would anybody want an animal that could possibly cause this type of havoc in your life. Death to all Pit Bulls. Even the one my Mother and Father now have as a pet, (go figure)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    If labs became the dirtbag dog of choice you'd be saying the same thing about labs in 20 years.

    The fact is, probably more than half the people that own dogs shouldn't have one.
    Probably true again, but that includes all dogs, not just Pit's.
    I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong

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    Such a lack of education from some of the posters in this thread! All dogs have teeth = All dogs can bite! Pit Bulls happen to be a fad it seems (and have been for the past 10-15 years), and many owners purchase and breed the dogs with the wrong intention. Lets not forget many of these dogs ancestors were bred with one purpose in mind, fighting. Thats particullarly why some have Dog Aggressive behavior. Hell, if I were attached to a chain all day everyday for years w/o any human or animal contact, I would probably want to bite someone/something also. It is all about the owner, breeding lines, temperment, etc. Many people for years have been breeding pits for color, size, and stature but not for temperment, and with all of the in-breeding, there are bound to be some issues.

    Now with all that being said, my 80lb 1 1/2 year old pit has been socialized since he was 16 weeks old, still goes to the dog parks, and is great with all visitors to my household (kids-elderly), but I will never trust him 100% with anyone but myself. He definitely has the capibility to destroy, but so does everyone in this forum! Many specific terrier breed owners do not fully understand the responsibiltiy that comes with owning such a dog. They are magnificient animals and the ignorance that many have (including some of the posters above) is disappointing.

    I bet some of you still think Pit Bulls have "locking" jaws!!!!

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