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    Same difference regarding pay. In my experiences, it's been up front. Maybe because I was driving shit.
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    No one seems to consider the city of South Fulton runs the FD, not the chief or firemen. Not their fault at all.

    What if a fire broke out in the city and killed someone while the FD was in the county? The 911 dispatcher had already determined there was no threat to humans at the fire...the dispatcher and the chief don't have the authority to send the trucks on a run that policy doesn't allow.

    Who decides what the city and county fire policies are? THE VOTERS. This arrangement had been in place over 20 years. If the county residents wanted a FD they could have voted to spend the tax dollars for one.

    I'm rather surprised that CA people are complaining about this...government for freeloaders is one of the things contributing to IOUs and the budget crisis in your state.

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    I get the point they "the city" are making. But couldn't they have just made the fine like 5k and then people would still pay their fees instead of incurring the hefty fine.
    I would think the insurance company will be suing the guy for not protecting their investment and the city for nor doing their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrrr View Post
    No one seems to consider the city of South Fulton runs the FD, not the chief or firemen. Not their fault at all.

    What if a fire broke out in the city and killed someone while the FD was in the county? The 911 dispatcher had already determined there was no threat to humans at the fire...the dispatcher and the chief don't have the authority to send the trucks on a run that policy doesn't allow.

    Who decides what the city and county fire policies are? THE VOTERS. This arrangement had been in place over 20 years. If the county residents wanted a FD they could have voted to spend the tax dollars for one.

    I'm rather surprised that CA people are complaining about this...government for freeloaders is one of the things contributing to IOUs and the budget crisis in your state.
    Read the article................the fire department was ON SCENE, so your "scenario" doesn't apply here. Had the fire department not been on scene, it would have been a different situation. However, they were there and stood by & did nothing to help the man who's house was on fire.

    Once on scene the Captain says what goes. Do you really think that his firefighters would have ignored his orders if he told them to fight the fire?

    The man also offered to pay any expenses incurred in fighting the fire and was told to pound sand.

    Yet more proof how the mighty dollar outweighs common sense and human dignity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plaster dave View Post
    I get the point they "the city" are making. But couldn't they have just made the fine like 5k and then people would still pay their fees instead of incurring the hefty fine.
    I would think the insurance company will be suing the guy for not protecting their investment and the city for nor doing their job.
    HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE FREEKIN' CITY! He lives in the county, outside the jurisdiction of the city. If you're going to comment at least get the facts...

    The FD had no authority to respond to the call, the city set the policy.

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    I think some of you are making comments and have not read the exact account of events. Go back and read the story then make an informed comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch Me Squirt View Post
    Read the article................the fire department was ON SCENE, so your "scenario" doesn't apply here. Had the fire department not been on scene, it would have been a different situation. However, they were there and stood by & did nothing to help the man who's house was on fire.

    Once on scene the Captain says what goes. Do you really think that his firefighters would have ignored his orders if he told them to fight the fire?

    The man also offered to pay any expenses incurred in fighting the fire and was told to pound sand.

    Yet more proof how the mighty dollar outweighs common sense and human dignity.
    Read the facts....

    They were not on the scene until the neighbor that had paid the fee called 911. The mobile home was fully involved with they arrived, it's a moot point.

    Do you think the captain should jeopardize his job by doing something he was not authorized to do?

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    Time to file a home owners insurance claim!!??? I wonder if he had home owners insurance?? Wouldn't that cover the house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrrr View Post
    Read the facts....

    They were not on the scene until the neighbor that had paid the fee called 911. The mobile home was fully involved with they arrived, it's a moot point.

    Do you think the captain should jeopardize his job by doing something he was not authorized to do?
    Ok Mr. Facts..............show me where it says that the house was "fully involved."

    "They did, however, come out when Cranick's neighbor -- who'd already paid the fee -- called 911 because he worried that the fire might spread to his property. Once they arrived, members of the South Fulton department stood by and watched Cranick's home burn; they sprang into action only when the fire reached the neighbor's property."

    From what I read, they stood by & watched his house burn.................

    Do you really think the Captain would lose his job for doing something he took an oath to do?

    Once again $$$$ overrides common sense.................
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    This is what I forsee happening. One of the left leaning liberal attorneys is going to get ahold of this and sue the Fire department for big $$$. The FD. will then pay the judgement against them and then suspend any service to the rural area outside of their city limits. Then all of the homeowners lose.

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    I can't help thinking that if the home owner decided NOT to pay the $75.00, how/why would I think that he could/would pay for the full cost of the service?

    Gotta think that the bill would be in the thousands. In my mind, he decided to 'self-insure' and made the wrong decision.

    No pay = no service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by little rowe boat View Post
    This is what I forsee happening. One of the left leaning liberal attorneys is going to get ahold of this and sue the Fire department for big $$$. The FD. will then pay the judgement against them and then suspend any service to the rural area outside of their city limits. Then all of the homeowners lose.
    Are you sure you can find a left leaning liberal in Tennessee? I thought they were all Conservative Bible thumping rednecks........

    Yep. Agreed with your statement about the lawsuit. If you watch the video, the homeowner states he simply "forgot" to pay the $75.00 this year. He says he has paid it each & every year before, but it slipped his mind this year. All of this could have been avoided had the powers that be said "Ok, we'll fight the fire and bill you $75.00 plus a late fee", which I'm sure the homeowner would have gladly paid.

    IMO, nobody wins with the way this was handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch Me Squirt View Post
    Would your opinion change if there were lives or animals lost in the fire?

    From what I read, it wasn't a volunteer department, just the department from a neighboring town. In that case, the firefighters were getting paid. He also offered to pay whatever expenses were incurred.

    Agree,what is a Fire Dept. for? To sit and watch property burn is sickening

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrrr View Post
    HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE FREEKIN' CITY! He lives in the county, outside the jurisdiction of the city. If you're going to comment at least get the facts...

    The FD had no authority to respond to the call, the city set the policy.
    Do they provide a service for this area if you pay the $75.00? YES
    So yes the city does cover this area for a fee. Do you understand that?
    If I was a firemen on scene I would have done something. Hell I am not a firemen and I would have helped.
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