Firefighters Watch House Burn To Ground

**Watch Me Squirt** · 10-06-2010, 11:08 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot...logical-debate

I'm on the fence about this one. On one hand, the guy should have paid the fee. On the other hand, don't firefighters have a civic duty to protect property? Save the guys house and worry about payment later? Interested to hear others opinions............

**Tahiti Boss21** · 10-06-2010, 11:25 AM

I think the fire should have been put out and deal with the money issue later. If this was a LEO call for service, and someone was going to be stabbed but the cops stood there and watched it happen all hell would break loose with the media.

FD and LEO deal with people all the time who don't pay into the system, just how it goes. THis isn't the water company where you cut off someone's service when they don't pay.

**Wet** · 10-06-2010, 11:26 AM

Let it burn!!!
He took a gamble and lost. It's a $75 fee, pretty cheap protection. I'm guessing that this is a volunteer fire department and this is a funding/logistical call, and local or state taxes don't cover or fund some aspect of this. It's a business, and if a business has a fee, I guess if you want their services, you pay...
one way or another.

**Watch Me Squirt** · 10-06-2010, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Wet

Let it burn!!!
He took a gamble and lost. It's a $75 fee, pretty cheap protection. I'm guessing that this is a volunteer fire department and this is a funding/logistical call, and local or state taxes don't cover or fund sone aspect of this. It's a business, and if a business has a fee, I guess if you want their services, you pay...
one way or another.

Would your opinion change if there were lives or animals lost in the fire?

From what I read, it wasn't a volunteer department, just the department from a neighboring town. In that case, the firefighters were getting paid. He also offered to pay whatever expenses were incurred.

**Wet** · 10-06-2010, 11:33 AM

No. A firefighters job is not to save people. It is a FIRE protection service, and with that service comes a fee. Morally, I think it would be absurd to have a dire dept sit and watch if there were people inside, and i just don't think any department would ever do that.

**Tahiti Boss21** · 10-06-2010, 11:35 AM

shit if i saw someones car burning i'd pull over and try to put it out...should i expect to get payed for it?

**Lucky** · 10-06-2010, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Wet

Let it burn!!!
He took a gamble and lost. It's a $75 fee, pretty cheap protection. I'm guessing that this is a volunteer fire department and this is a funding/logistical call, and local or state taxes don't cover or fund some aspect of this. It's a business, and if a business has a fee, I guess if you want their services, you pay...
one way or another.

Have you paid your vessel assist ???

**Wet** · 10-06-2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Lucky

Have you paid your vessel assist ???

No, I use Sea Tow, and have used it one week into my coverage. The afterthought of paying is kinda like a preexisting condition, and your insurance company isn't going to touch it.

**vmjtc3** · 10-06-2010, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Wet

No. A firefighters job is not to save people. It is a FIRE protection service, and with that service comes a fee. Morally, I think it would be absurd to have a dire dept sit and watch if there were people inside, and i just don't think any department would ever do that.

A fire fighters number one job is to minimize injury or the loss of life and property when fire or other emergencies occur.
Number two is to confine and extinguish fires. At least thats what they told us at the academy.

**scooooter7** · 10-06-2010, 11:51 AM

They should have put it out and sent a bill for services rendered.

**catman-do** · 10-06-2010, 11:52 AM

Should have paid the $75. If none of his property taxes go to fire, and he doesnt pay into a fire account, then thats his problem. If they put out his fire, then everyone would stop paying the fee, and would only pay it once they needed it. If that was the case they would have to increase the "on demand fee" from 75 to thousands. Then you would need to get financing before they went to work, and your sht would burn anyways. Guy learns a lesson, and I bet the fire dept got many checks for $75 pouring in over the next week.

Ultra26 # 1 · 10-06-2010, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Watch Me Squirt

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot...logical-debate

I'm on the fence about this one. On one hand, the guy should have paid the fee. On the other hand, don't firefighters have a civic duty to protect property? Save the guys house and worry about payment later? Interested to hear others opinions............

I'm not on the fence at all about this issue. The fire should have been put out. For $75 the FD put this guys insurance on a total loss.

**Customisbetter** · 10-06-2010, 11:55 AM

If you don't pay the fee, you don't get the service. Thats what you get for not having income taxes...

**Wet** · 10-06-2010, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by vmjtc3

A fire fighters number one job is to minimize injury or the loss of life and property when fire or other emergencies occur.
Number two is to confine and extinguish fires. At least thats what they told us at the academy.

Fair enough, however, my academy taught us no not enter an involved structure for rescue until the threat of personal injury was deemed sufficient to enter.

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