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    I would like to know what the pro's and cons are for registering a lake use boat with Coast Guard? I have been told that there is a one time fee of approx. $436 versus a yearly fee for registration in AZ $292. There are no numbers or decals on your boat with Cost Guard but you need to have a name painted on the back.

    I am sure there are specific reasons why this is not good for lake use boats but would like to know what they are and get input.......thanks

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    I would think that this not being the norm on the lake that you run the risk of getting stopped for missing registration.

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    You have to put Name and home port on outside boat. Home port doesnt have to be on water. also need to have Coast Guard assigned number on or in boat. mine is in Eng compartment.

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    If it seems much more cost effective (one time fee and thats it) then why aren't all us boaters already doing this? AZ policy does not require any other registration if you are U.S. Coast Guard registered. I understand that chance of getting stopped for no numbers/decals but there has to be some negative to doing this or we all would have this time of permanent registration and save the cash on the yearly registration fee's.

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    If you get hijacked by pirates and have State registration. You will not be under Federal military protection, as you would be sailing under the the UNITED STATES FEDERAL Colors. Seems like a win-win to me. I think to register with the cost guard you have to have a gross tonage over 5 tons. The 5 tons is by volume. Typically a 25' boat minimun. They federal Govt. can also taek your boat in time of emergency.

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    What you are speaking of is a "Documented Vessel" It is based on tonage, and that is not weight. Look at the USCG website for detailed info on this under documnented vessel. You will notice most of the large boats in Desert Storm do not display state reg number since they are "Documented".

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    Quote Originally Posted by djhartley2003 View Post
    I would think that this not being the norm on the lake that you run the risk of getting stopped for missing registration.
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    This is the best reason not to get your boat documented. We get pulled over all the time and it can be a hassle. Especially, when the majority of Marine enforcement personnel are part time and/or newbies with a senior officer somewhere nearby to reply to all the questions they have.

    It sucks! Now if you boat in the ocean by all means have at it. Lakes you might as well have your fenders out all the time your gonna get pulled over.

    Do what you want... you have your get out of any jam.... credentials to flash and it's sorry! have a nice day. Ha ha. it's true! Whereas, Kappy and the rest of the PB crowd has to conduct boating 101, safety check and refuse FST's before I can get back to the festivities....laughing....just kidding you...payback sucks huh!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAP View Post
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    This is the best reason not to get your boat documented. We get pulled over all the time and it can be a hassle. Especially, when the majority of Marine enforcement personnel are part time and/or newbies with a senior officer somewhere nearby to reply to all the questions they have.

    It sucks! Now if you boat in the ocean by all means have at it. Lakes you might as well have your fenders out all the time your gonna get pulled over.

    Do what you want... you have your get out of any jam.... credentials to flash and it's sorry! have a nice day. Ha ha. it's true! Whereas, Kappy and the rest of the PB crowd has to conduct boating 101, safety check and refuse FST's before I can get back to the festivities....laughing....just kidding you...payback sucks huh!.

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    X2 - My friend has C.G. registration as opposed to AZ or CF, and we always get stopped on the water in havasu. Last time, it was by a green Fish and Game dept. trainee and his partner, it turned into a 1.5 hour fiasco in the middle of the lake. It was 118 outside, and they wouldn't let anyone jump in the water to cool off. They wanted to see all the documents, call everything in to verify, then read us the riot act saying that they didn't feel the font of the home port lettering was correct and to code, and that the size of the boats home port letters were not regulation. They then proceeded to do a full safety inspection, and chastise us for not having 2 fire extinguishers, even though we had one handheld, and one auto-halon extinguisher in the engine compartment. So yea....no C.G. reg for me!
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    I have it on my boat (29' Shockwave) and have only been pulled over for it once. Show the Reg Certificate, life vests, flotation device, extinguishers and was on my way.... Paid a one time fee and the renewal is pretty much automatic every year, just have to confirm no changes and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSXINDUSTRIES View Post
    X2 - My friend has C.G. registration as opposed to AZ or CF, and we always get stopped on the water in havasu. Last time, it was by a green Fish and Game dept. trainee and his partner, it turned into a 1.5 hour fiasco in the middle of the lake. It was 118 outside, and they wouldn't let anyone jump in the water to cool off. They wanted to see all the documents, call everything in to verify, then read us the riot act saying that they didn't feel the font of the home port lettering was correct and to code, and that the size of the boats home port letters were not regulation. They then proceeded to do a full safety inspection, and chastise us for not having 2 fire extinguishers, even though we had one handheld, and one auto-halon extinguisher in the engine compartment. So yea....no C.G. reg for me!
    Oh man I appreciate your post so much because you virtually recited the drama play by play ACT 1 Scene 2 of most stops. My wife usually just rolls her eyes and says Ok honey read them the riot act. I just tell them to write it up and I will see them at the nearest Federal Court.

    Now let's not lump all the Marine Enforcement officers into one bunch. We were in Missouri Lake of the Ozarks Missouri State Water Patrol viewing me through binoculars I see him coming as soon as he saw my transom he smiled waved and gave me thumbs up. It has happenned a lot where officers know the deal on USCG Documented Vessels and do not hassle us.

    I really appreciate and respect law enforcement who really have their "A" game going on i.e...they know the rules and what is what. Ran into one water LEO he said in his 17 years on the water more often than not the documented guys know the rules and are the least of his worries. Conversely, rental boats had the highest incident of violations and contacts and caused him a ton of grief.

    Nevertheless I will stick with my initial conclusion if your gonna boat mainly in one area and no multistate stuff state registration is far better. Plus, I think the state registration funds go to fund boating in some states by statute.

    Funny stuff, thanks LSX INDUSTRIES damn that was like deja vu'.

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    My boat is Coat Guard Doc as well. I have ran it on Havasu, Powell, lots of lakes in Utah and Wyoming and in the Chesapeak Bay. Never been hasseled for it. My home port is in Utah and I boat in MD most of the year. Never been questioned by DNR or the Coast Guard here. My reg numbers are on the inside of my enclosed head.

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    So if the only possible draw back to doing this is possibly getting stopped on the water for not displaying numbers (and your gang moniker is Kap) then why aren't we all doing this and saving money? Seems like a no brainer. I pay $292 a year for 28' boat registration to AZ. Coast Guard Document vessel is a one time fee for only $436. No numbers or stickers to display. Just a name and home port ont the transom. I think I am going to make the switch when my registration is due....any other thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavey29 View Post
    So if the only possible draw back to doing this is possibly getting stopped on the water for not displaying numbers (and your gang moniker is Kap) then why aren't we all doing this and saving money? Seems like a no brainer. I pay $292 a year for 28' boat registration to AZ. Coast Guard Document vessel is a one time fee for only $436. No numbers or stickers to display. Just a name and home port ont the transom. I think I am going to make the switch when my registration is due....any other thoughts?
    You can move to AZ....as a resident I pay $39.00 a year

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