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    Hello:

    I was thinking about the evolution of performance boating lately. What evolution you ask!.... well the following areas:

    1. Monster HP motors with tons of torque...Like the current turbo rage 2,300HP[per motor] and greater.

    2. Bigger Hulls---28 ft boat now is tiny.

    3. Full Digital Controls and Diagnostic tools/laptops.

    These are just a few but really leap out at me.

    Take for instance this recent jump in monster engines [hate to break the news to you a 1200HP motor is not the schiat anymore] and previously unheard of speeds. We have 31 foot boats with 2,700HP engines and open cockpit Skaters doing 182+.

    I'm not throwing any stones in Casa de Kappy's glass house. I started with a 848HP motor in a Sportdeck and in a year. It was simply not enough for me anymore. I first thought 28ft in boat length is plenty and now I'm heading into a 32 footer.

    I'm thinking this latest trend started from late 2009 through the current year. Performance boating has evolved at a lightning pace in the last year. Take a look at some tilt trailers costing six figures pumping out fluids before transport some of these trailers cost more than the first three boats I owned and throw in the truck. I haven't even mentioned some of the electronics in the latest high end boats with front and aft cameras. [I love those cameras].

    Performance boating is on the cutting edge of all things just name it from drives to motors to efficiency of hulls, epoxy resin, infusion lamination, and carbon fiber composite materials. Even interiors are more like Lamborghini's and super luxurious versus the old school white marine vinyl.

    I wonder if this trend will have a cooling off period I don't think so. If anything analog gauges and old school techniques will be a lost art or relagated to museum status.

    Hey maybe I'm wrong but there has been a definite evolution in the performance boating mindset.

    What do you think?...more to come and if so what do you foresee?

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    all the things you have mentioned are great and all, but are out of reach for most of the people
    here. I'll be happy with my 11 year old 25' 800hp, and anolog gauges, the high roller type can
    have all that expensive high tech stuff, and the payments that come with it! I'm just a poor-boy
    mechanic-and can barely afford what I have- If you can afford that stuff, cool, maybe I can get
    a ride in your boat someday but I will never have the money for it -just my poor boy opinion-
    your "little 28' " boat is the shit!


    Out With The Old, In With The New.......Goodbye Blinding Acceleration, Hello Sustained High Speed (in comfort)

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    That's a cool trend; Bigger and bigger boats with huge horsepower......too bad most people can't afford that stuff.....I have about $10,000 invested in my dingy, and I'm happy....don't want to even know the Jones.....

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    While advancements are rapidly growing for the hardware, I think there should be some concern for where it's inevitably going to lead. Not everyone can afford that 2400hp engine, but those little 1200hp deals are more and more attainable. Performance boaters are still a relatively small group of boaters when compared to the big picture of boats in general. "Back in the day" on any given lake, you might find one or two hot boats tearing up the water and likely not hitting 100mph. That was no big deal to the average boater or property owner overlooking the lake. Now, with more and more horsepower and hulls that can make that 100mph mark easily, there are a lot more of us being noticed. It won't be long before the only place we will be able to hit those speeds are on the big water. There are a lot of lakes with a 35mph speed limit now. What happens if the states mandate that speed to all lakes? I don't think it's too far off.

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    Default Bigger boats with monster HP

    Love the high powered boats available today, My problem is, any 20 something with cash in his or her pocket a little credit can buy one today and be on the water at 100 plus MPH this weekend without any boating experience if they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool427 View Post
    Love the high powered boats available today, My problem is, any 20 something with cash in his or her pocket a little credit can buy one today and be on the water at 100 plus MPH this weekend without any boating experience if they wanted.



    I think every "new" boater should have to pass a boat safety or general knowledge test to operate a boat.
    Everyone needs a drivers license to drive a car so why should a boat be any different?

    Then if you want to go 80-100+ mph you should have the training to do so by taking a advanced boaters course with high speed boat handling training.


    The boating world has advanced, think that the companies will be looking for more ways to develope fast fun boats that do not use as much fuel as before due to the rise in fuel cost.

    I know there are some guys who could drive a boat 100mph blindfolded and have no problem but this would help weed out the people who could put others lives at risk by their lack of experience in driving boats that fast
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    Blowncat 509:

    Thanks I do like our 28ft Sportdeck it hauls the mail. The motor pictured in your post was not something I could afford when I first started boating. It is also very advanced in terms of HP and power to weight ratios when looking at past boats.

    Cvxjet:

    I think it is relative I know some jet boaters who spend a lot of money on their 10,000 dollar boats in relation to their earned income. I could pull the trigger on a lot of bigger boats but the fuel cost would kill me as we boat 110 hours a year.

    Fonz69:

    You hit the nail on head with fuel costs. In my opinion the trend in the future will be fuel efficient boats which still do not sacrifice performance. I'm building one right now that will fit right into that category.

    Wet and Oldschool427:

    Great posts, I did not have any experience when I started and gained it along the way. I also went from Novice class to Professional in just a year. I think it was based on peers accepting the level of professionalism. You also forgot the 60 year old biotech executive who goes out and buys a twin 2,400 HP cat and has no experience. This is more apt to happen than a kid who can barely afford to take his girl to Mickey D's.
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    As for trends...I think boating safety needs to be a high priority for the performance boat manufacturer and boat owner. I can recall Poker Runs in the past were you just had to have the life jackets onboard...then it was mandatory for the driver to wear it...now everyone must wear one. Interesting when you recollect the past trend in boating.

    In response to the licensing issue I am definitely opposed to mandatory license requirements it gets really difficult if you boat interstate waterways. It would be a virtual nightmare of rules and regulations each state being different.

    As for speed I think 100MPH is hella fast and I give that speed number a ton of respect. I know a lot of people do not but complacency might bite you a new one. The trend in boats is also a factor newer boats of today can handle that speed without the ill effects of the past. What do I mean V-Bottoms that do not chine walk or fall off the pad at high speed. Cats that by their hull dynamics being rock solid at triple digit speeds. This is a testament to technology whereas in the past only certain hulls had a reputation for going fast.

    I also think that digital technology in some form or another will be on your boat here in the next three years. From jets, v-drives,I/O's and Outboards somewhere in the equation the high tech world will affect it.

    KAP

    P.S. Heading out to check on my 32 in progress as we speak. Yeah I saved my duckets for this boat.
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    Fuel costs?! Fuel costs.....ohhhh crap! I guess I'll be using my paddles a lot this year.....

    As for the license thingy....I would love to keep that from happening, but it's something that needs to happen; There are a lot of novices out there, even with "production boats" that don't have a clue and need training....as for the high performance boats, they are so far beyond the level of performance of just a few years ago, there really needs to be a full-on course for handling them.....maybe one of the boat associations could run the course and cert', with the govt just having a law that requires the training....the only govt' "fee" being a ticket for not getting the training.
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    I think boating will return to the more simple times. High HP engines take work and lots of cash.

    1. HP will come from smaller engines
    2.Outboards will come into the picture more and more with higher HP/fuel economy
    3.Nox and CO levels will come into the picture
    4.Noise levels will be regulated

    This will follow what cars have today like the new Vette quiet, fast, reliable, low emissions, and pretty good fuel economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAP View Post
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    Take for instance this recent jump in monster engines [hate to break the news to you a 1200HP motor is not the schiat anymore] and previously unheard of speeds. We have 31 foot boats with 2,700HP engines and open cockpit Skaters doing 182+.




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    In comparison for thrill rides, you don't need those monster engines to scare the bejeezus out of you going 182+. Go back to pickleforks and 80-90 will feel like 200 .

    This small Catalina gave me just as much fun back in the 70's as the big monster engined ones give today.Of course I was limited to river and lake use only.

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    Another perk of the boat training classes might be insurance breaks

    I remember my insurance guy saying if I took a boaters saftey class he could reduce my premium.

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    I hate to see mandatory licensing but I do feel we need some sort of regulation and or training with the HP out there today, the congestion on some of the waterways and the growing number of inexperienced people moving into the boating recreation. Definitely think the people purchasing the waverunner, seadoo etc should have to take a class and I'll leave that at that....

    I also think technology will continue to improve the way people boat, but the classics will always be the classics. To each his own, I know I won't ever have to worry about my garage not being big enough and I'm happy to just be out on the water and know it's paid for (even if I can't afford the fuel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool427 View Post
    Love the high powered boats available today, My problem is, any 20 something with cash in his or her pocket a little credit can buy one today and be on the water at 100 plus MPH this weekend without any boating experience if they wanted.
    Did you think this up in the year 2006 and just realize you failed to post it back then...
    even with good credit and alot of cash down, people can't get financed today in the year 2011
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilrtoy View Post
    Did you think this up in the year 2006 and just realize you failed to post it back then...
    even with good credit and alot of cash down, people can't get financed today in the year 2011
    Thank god you're not in sales, you'd starve.

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