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    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    You guys are wasting your time trying to explain anything to CVX. His tiny, narrow mind is made up and no one is going to change it. He sees the business world as one big partnership with the employees as equal or greater to the business owner. He doesn't take into consideration the risks and capital investment the "owner" takes to launch a business. He doesn't consider the extra hours the owner puts in with no pay so that he/she can provide a safe and comfortable working enviroment for his employees, furnish a demand for the products his employees make and do it competitivly, see that all taxes, regulations and other covenents are met, see that his employees have a full benefit and retirement package and comply with all local, state and federal laws....No, CVX doesn't see, care or want to know what the business owner has to do so that when he and his fellow employees punches the time clock at 8:00 AM, hangs out at the water cooler talking about yesterday's game, takes a 20 minute bathroom break, fills his coffee mug, chats with the good looking blond in the short skirt at another desk all before he sits down at his desk to "slave away" for DA MAN..who BTW is "Holding him down with his miserable wage and shitty unbearable working conditions that are no better than the Chinese." CVX has such a closed minded view of what the real business world is all about, it is no wonder why he works for the government, He'd never make in the the business world. If it wern't for government employment there would be alot more people like CVX living in cardboard boxes and under overpasses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quickjet View Post
    You should of stopped right there because gn7 IS right. You will find that more greed comes from Union labor than the corporate office. If Ametican labor appreciated their place in the scene of business the sooner corporations won't be forced to move shop in order to avoid the Cancer that is organized labor.
    Just wanted to point this post out to the people here that keep lumping QJ in with the broad "libbie" branding. It's rather obvious he's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss460 View Post
    Just wanted to point this post out to the people here that keep lumping QJ in with the broad "libbie" branding. It's rather obvious he's not.
    Yer right...but the only lumping I am doing with with the CVXs and the 1.64s of the world who think the entire business world was created just for them and cater to employees' demands, whims and wishes and to hell with production, profits, return on investments and calculated risks, thats not for them to think about. To them employers are there for the sole purpose of providing them with high paying jobs, generous benefits, retirement packages and any other perk they can extort from the employer. When the whistle blows at 5PM they are outta there like the building was on fire, they get to go home, put their feet up an quaff a beer or two without giving a thought of work until the alarm goes off the next morning at 6AM and the cycle begins again. Lets talk about "paid" holidays the employee gets...does the employer get the same paid holiday? Does the employer even get the day off? While the employee is enjoying his holiday BBQ-ing in his back yard or enjoying a day on the lake or river towing the little ones on skis and innertubes behind his jetboat chances are the employer is working. If not at the office, shop, factory etc he most likely is home pouring over P&L statements, filling out loan applications to take to the bank on Monday so that he might purchase newer, more efficent equipment just so that the company can and HOPEFULLY make money. The employee does not put up his house for collateral against that loan for equipment. What risk does the employee take? The only one I can think of is the chance he might get hit by a bus on his way to work. If the employer is not reading P&L statements maybe he is reading the latest union contract demands laid on his desk Friday at 4:30 PM....so he has the 3 day weekend to read and review. Yep....The employers has it so damn easy and all he as to do is sit on his pile of money and count it....Life is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    Yer right...but the only lumping I am doing with with the CVXs and the 1.64s of the world who think the entire business world was created just for them and cater to employees' demands, whims and wishes and to hell with production, profits, return on investments and calculated risks, thats not for them to think about. To them employers are there for the sole purpose of providing them with high paying jobs, generous benefits, retirement packages and any other perk they can extort from the employer. When the whistle blows at 5PM they are outta there like the building was on fire, they get to go home, put their feet up an quaff a beer or two without giving a thought of work until the alarm goes off the next morning at 6AM and the cycle begins again. Lets talk about "paid" holidays the employee gets...does the employer get the same paid holiday? Does the employer even get the day off? While the employee is enjoying his holiday BBQ-ing in his back yard or enjoying a day on the lake or river towing the little ones on skis and innertubes behind his jetboat chances are the employer is working. If not at the office, shop, factory etc he most likely is home pouring over P&L statements, filling out loan applications to take to the bank on Monday so that he might purchase newer, more efficent equipment just so that the company can and HOPEFULLY make money. The employee does not put up his house for collateral against that loan for equipment. What risk does the employee take? The only one I can think of is the chance he might get hit by a bus on his way to work. If the employer is not reading P&L statements maybe he is reading the latest union contract demands laid on his desk Friday at 4:30 PM....so he has the 3 day weekend to read and review. Yep....The employers has it so damn easy and all he as to do is sit on his pile of money and count it....Life is good.


    Zero, Let me provide some music for your little tale of woe.... ...... If being a business owner is so miserable and thankless as you describe ...why do so many people strive do it ? Also how many successful business owners then chuck it all and go to work for someone else or even the government to excape the difficult path of business ownership??? You are such a drama queen .....So what kind of business do you own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Zero, Let me provide some music for your little tale of woe.... ...... If being a business owner is so miserable and thankless as you describe ...why do so many people strive do it ? Also how many successful business owners then chuck it all and go to work for someone else or even the government to excape the difficult path of business ownership??? You are such a drama queen .....So what kind of business do you own?
    Let me help you clear up some misconceptions you have....There is no tale of woe....I direct that to CVX and his sniviling and whining and refrence his hatred for the businessman and the rich. We clear on that? Being a business owner is not miserable and thankless. I love what I do and expect no thanks from anyone, just pay the bill, thats thanks enough. Next: I don't know how many have chucked it all and went to work for someone else, try Google. I guess that is a good thing that there is that "someone else" to go to work for. I don't know why some fail and go to work for someone else, do you? This has nothing to do with my talents as an acting drama queen, but I'm flattered that you think so. Maybe I missed my calling as an actor. As for the business I am in it is not relevant to this thread that, again that was directed to CVX who rants and foams at the mouth incoherently about the evil, rich businessman who's only goal is to enslave his POOR, hapless workers as they are chained to their desks as the walking boss stands over them cracking his cat-o-nine tails. Government employment was taylored to his kind and a God-send....otherwise he and his kind would be living in a Kelvinator box. Government employment are for those who can't make it in the private sector, even as a employee. I'm happy to have had this oppertunity to correct some of the many misconceptions you liberals have of private business and those who run them. Glad to be of service.
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    Can you imagine what these whiney pussies sound like to people in other countries? There is not a single law in this country stopping them from making as much money has they can or want. Not a single law that forces any of them to work a single hour for anybody they don't want to, or for a dime less than they are WORTH. They are free to pedal their VAST knowledge and EXTREME work ethic, any where in the entire country, to any employer, for what ever wage they can get. And yet, they bitch like little spoiled school girls.
    Get some sacks guys. You're an total embarassment to the nation!

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    I'd love to see the country that an idiot like GNNnyy would be in charge of; All money must be in the hands of the "Good" people, meaning the top 1%, and everyone below must never say anything against the govt or the rich, courts & criminal charges would only be against the poor(Because the rich can do no wrong), taxes should only be payed by liberals and the poor, and when a worker drone can't work anymore, he gets buried alive, cause you wouldn't want to waste the cost of a bullet. "The rich can do no wrong!!!" and MUST have everything......The only bad rich person is one that doesn't fully support the Hyper(Rich are perfect!)Cons and march in lock step with them........No disent is allowed.

    And just think of what would happen in GN-land if you missed a day of work or were layed off- Marched off to the cracker factory!......anyone want some Solent green?

    Seriously, what are you going to do when you have the rich paying ZERO taxes? And why do you think it's ok to live on credit? Especially Commie credit! Maybe you can sell the constitution to the commies- You and your hyper-con buddies only worry about the debt when someone else is in office; When Bush II was in, you marched in lock-step with "Debt-doesn't-matter" Cheney.....Why should we go back to the hyper-cons when it's proven that they would take care of the rich, even to the distruction of the US?

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    Somebody big rich kid must have taken your lunch money everyday in school. I have never in my life ever seen a MAN whine like you can. You are pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvxjet View Post
    I'd love to see the country that an idiot like GNNnyy would be in charge of; All money must be in the hands of the "Good" people, meaning the top 1%, and everyone below must never say anything against the govt or the rich, courts & criminal charges would only be against the poor(Because the rich can do no wrong), taxes should only be payed by liberals and the poor, and when a worker drone can't work anymore, he gets buried alive, cause you wouldn't want to waste the cost of a bullet. "The rich can do no wrong!!!" and MUST have everything......The only bad rich person is one that doesn't fully support the Hyper(Rich are perfect!)Cons and march in lock step with them........No disent is allowed.

    And just think of what would happen in GN-land if you missed a day of work or were layed off- Marched off to the cracker factory!......anyone want some Solent green?

    Seriously, what are you going to do when you have the rich paying ZERO taxes? And why do you think it's ok to live on credit? Especially Commie credit! Maybe you can sell the constitution to the commies- You and your hyper-con buddies only worry about the debt when someone else is in office; When Bush II was in, you marched in lock-step with "Debt-doesn't-matter" Cheney.....Why should we go back to the hyper-cons when it's proven that they would take care of the rich, even to the distruction of the US?
    Goddamn....you are one pathetic son-of-a-bitch. May I suggest you move to North Korea as that government is much more suited to your needs, beliefs and desires than anything this country has to offer...You don't even see the glass as half empty...to you it is bone dry. N. Korea would be perfect for CVX as the little runt that is in charge now can do all of your thinking for you and unburden you of the criticle thinking it takes to survive in todays world...And if you are lucky there might be someone to assist you in wiping your ass as you are not capable or authorized to perform this function yourself. You seem to think you'll need a government requisition form to fill out for the toilet paper, its offical authorized use, the proper disposal procedure and a EPA enviromental impact report submitted in triplicate for the cradle to grave life of toilet paper.
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    Let's just set the clock back to 1985, when the top tax rate was at 50%, and all those evil regulations were still in place to stop a colapse of the stock Market, and see how much you whine, Gnnny. I do whine, as you put it, because I have watched as the Republican party has gone from being the party of Lincoln, Teddy & Reagan to being the Party of "NO TAXES!!!", "Don't pay our debts" and "Don't ever compromise, even if not doing so will cripple the country"- Hypocritical idiots now run the GOP, and they are just the same type of idiots that say things like,"I'll kill her if she leaves me, noone else will have her- I "Love" her so much I must kill her!" You have cost this country a lot of money, and have almost destroyed it.....keep trying, I'm sure you can sell the rest of America to communist China, especially if you get your front man in there.

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