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Barr/Root 08 - anyone else looking at them?

Heard Root on the radio yesterday morning and supposedly the latest polls show them with 6%, and they are already on the ballot in 33 states.

Going over the website ( http://www.bobbarr2008.com/ ), they look pretty good.

Anyone else looking at them?

So vote for the guy that's not as bad as the OTHER guy, but ignore the guy that embodies a LOT more of what I want?

Why not just stay home and not bother? You will be throwing away your vote anyway.

Ken

I lived in GA for 6 years starting in 2000. I wasn't impressed with Bob Barr then and less now. I would never vote for him for President. He may steal some votes but I doubt anything like Ross Perot to effect the outcome.

He may take as many from O as Mac anyway. Either side has enough discontents unhappy to the extent they would vote Libertarian.

A wasted vote to make a "statement".....Why?????

Originally Posted by STV_Keith

So vote for the guy that's not as bad as the OTHER guy, but ignore the guy that embodies a LOT more of what I want?

Yup, that way you don't end up with the exact opposite of what you really want.
The more people that vote the way you do the better the chance that Obama will be your next President. Is that what you want??

Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1

Isn't a vote for Barr just going to hurt McCain's chances of being elected?

I agree. I like many things about both Rep Bob Barr and Wayne Allyn Root, however, niether of them are Pres material and a vote for them is in effect a vote for their opposite (Sen Obama).

If that's the way we vote, how do we ever expect a 3rd party to break and and REALLY CHANGE Washington? Obama and McCain both suck in my eyes, just McCain doesn't suck as bad. I think the Dems and Repubs alike, need a wake up call that they aren't the only option on the page.

A third party candidate without the recognition and hp to make a dent and actually have a chance to win is a wasted vote. Perot was the closest thing we've seen and he was quite a ways off with the electoral system the way it is. Voting third party for someone with zero chance to win will only help the candidate you would not have otherwise voted for and will do nothing to promote a third party emerging as a viable alternative present or future.

So then at what point does a third party have a chance...because this country is headed to hell in a handbasket and both the Repub and Dem candidates are looking to grease the tracks to help.

My opinions is we need a big wake-up call in Washington. A lot of what these guys are saying rings home with me:


"drastically reduce spending by limiting federal outlays to only the government’s legitimate functions, as provided in the United States Constitution."

"we must end government benefits and services for illegal immigrants"

"I oppose any law requiring registration of, or restricting the ownership, manufacture, or transfer or sale of firearms or ammunition to law-abiding citizens."

"The federal government should eliminate restrictions that inhibit energy production, as well as all special privileges for the production of politically-favored fuels, such as ethanol."

I still say the real scary part is yet to come. Who will be Obama's VP? He must choose someone no one wants running the country. IMO, if he chooses a qualified person, (yes, even Hildabeast), he has no insurance against the un thinkable........So, he'll pick a total dweeb as a survival tactic.....I still say we need a "None of the above" on the ballot. If none of the above gets more votes than any other, then we start over again. Campaigns should be limited to 60 days, 3 debates, and even TV air time. And again, none of the above on the ballot. I'm to the point that I really don't care anymore. Regardless of which party is in power they manage to screw it up in some way.......Life is too short to worry about this crap......Perot would've, (well, could have) really shook things up for 4 years, especially if he had chosen Iacocca as veep......Unless, and until, we stop trying to be so PC world wide, we will get nowhere....But, like I said, I no longer give a $hit. I'll get my Social Security......Everyone else, the ball is in your court. Use your vote anyway you see fit, but don't come back complaining about how screwed up things are........Fix it, cause its broken, and you younger people really need to straighten out your future.................MP

Originally Posted by STV_Keith

So then at what point does a third party have a chance...because this country is headed to hell in a handbasket and both the Repub and Dem candidates are looking to grease the tracks to help.

My opinions is we need a big wake-up call in Washington. A lot of what these guys are saying rings home with me:


"drastically reduce spending by limiting federal outlays to only the government’s legitimate functions, as provided in the United States Constitution."

"we must end government benefits and services for illegal immigrants"

"I oppose any law requiring registration of, or restricting the ownership, manufacture, or transfer or sale of firearms or ammunition to law-abiding citizens."

"The federal government should eliminate restrictions that inhibit energy production, as well as all special privileges for the production of politically-favored fuels, such as ethanol."

I don't think a 3rd party has a chance with the present electoral process. And with the current high buck campaigns it would take someone with equal or greater money to spend. Campaigns are mostly about money now. How many voters can you reach with your propaganda machine basically. It would take a big name to make a difference with a 3rd party. Someone like Colin Powell, Newt, Hillary, or another candidate that lost narrowly in the primaries. Could happen but I doubt it will. Problem is all the people talking and saying what you think are the right things are unelectable in today's system of big bucks, high profile recognition, etc.

Keith take a moment and think....All of these campaign promises...does the President pass his ideas into law? No it's done by vote of congress.
All of this campaign BS is nothing more than ideas and very few will go any further than being an idea.

Even if a third party canditate made it into office, would he stand a chinamans chance of getting his agenda passed through either a Republican or Democratic congress? Not gonna happen so what's the point? Make your vote count where its' going to do the most good even if it IS a lesser of two evils.

Ken

Originally Posted by STV_Keith

My opinions is we need a big wake-up call in Washington. A lot of what these guys are saying rings home with me:


"drastically reduce spending by limiting federal outlays to only the government’s legitimate functions, as provided in the United States Constitution."

"we must end government benefits and services for illegal immigrants"

"I oppose any law requiring registration of, or restricting the ownership, manufacture, or transfer or sale of firearms or ammunition to law-abiding citizens."

"The federal government should eliminate restrictions that inhibit energy production, as well as all special privileges for the production of politically-favored fuels, such as ethanol."