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    I've heard several Americans speaking on how they would like to see government run health care "like Canada has." I guess the news doesn't make it across the border on just how poor our health care really is here.

    Just as a small example, there is now a lottery on who gets to have a personal doctor. Nice system we have.

    http://www.paherald.sk.ca/index.cfm?sid=162643&sc=4

    Feeling ill? Better feel lucky, too
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    Hurry Up!

    If you live in Nipawin and have a big medical issue, then a draw will decide whether you can see a doctor.

    A new doctor is coming from South Africa to work at a local clinic called Nipawin Medical Group next month, and he will pick the patients through a draw - what many are calling a "patient lottery."

    He is putting names of perspective patients into a draw because he cannot take them all.

    Chris Olsen, an electrician from White Fox near Nipawin, was recently flown home from his work at a uranium mine with a chest pain.

    When Olsen wanted to see a doctor at the Nipawin Medical Group he was told to wait and enter for the draw.

    Olsen ended up going to emergency.

    Meanwhile, Olsen and his wife aren't eligible for the draw because they are patients of another doctor who has moved away from Nipawin.

    Olsen said his doctor is in Carrot River, about 45 minutes from his home, and he is unable to go that far.

    "She shut her clinic and never got back to us, and left my wife in a dangerous situation," said Olsen, awaiting his wife's tests.

    An employee at the Nipawin Medical Group said that today is the last day to submit the forms for the lottery and the draw is next week.

    There is no word on how many patients will be accepted via the draw.

    Nipawin is one of many communities across the province experiencing a shortage. There are nine family physicians there currently.

    "We have two physicians leaving from two different clinics," told Peggy Ratcliffe, spokeswoman with Kelsey Trail Health Region.

    "Patient lottery is only for the ones who don't have a family physician ...

    "They can submit their names and all the submissions will be put in the draw."

    Ratcliffe said although its the first time she's heard of it being done in her region, she said it's a fair way to pick patients who don't have a family physician.

    Ratcliffe said, ideally, Nipawin should have four more doctors.

    Sherry Little, the office manager at the Nipawin Medical Group refused to comment on the "patient lottery," only saying "we have six doctors in our clinic."

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopjonnyjon View Post
    I've heard several Americans speaking on how they would like to see government run health care "like Canada has." I guess the news doesn't make it across the border on just how poor our health care really is here.

    Just as a small example, there is now a lottery on who gets to have a personal doctor. Nice system we have.

    http://www.paherald.sk.ca/index.cfm?sid=162643&sc=4

    Feeling ill? Better feel lucky, too
    Health care
    MOHSIN ABBAS
    Herald Staff

    Hurry Up!

    If you live in Nipawin and have a big medical issue, then a draw will decide whether you can see a doctor.

    A new doctor is coming from South Africa to work at a local clinic called Nipawin Medical Group next month, and he will pick the patients through a draw - what many are calling a "patient lottery."

    He is putting names of perspective patients into a draw because he cannot take them all.

    Chris Olsen, an electrician from White Fox near Nipawin, was recently flown home from his work at a uranium mine with a chest pain.

    When Olsen wanted to see a doctor at the Nipawin Medical Group he was told to wait and enter for the draw.

    Olsen ended up going to emergency.

    Meanwhile, Olsen and his wife aren't eligible for the draw because they are patients of another doctor who has moved away from Nipawin.

    Olsen said his doctor is in Carrot River, about 45 minutes from his home, and he is unable to go that far.

    "She shut her clinic and never got back to us, and left my wife in a dangerous situation," said Olsen, awaiting his wife's tests.

    An employee at the Nipawin Medical Group said that today is the last day to submit the forms for the lottery and the draw is next week.

    There is no word on how many patients will be accepted via the draw.

    Nipawin is one of many communities across the province experiencing a shortage. There are nine family physicians there currently.

    "We have two physicians leaving from two different clinics," told Peggy Ratcliffe, spokeswoman with Kelsey Trail Health Region.

    "Patient lottery is only for the ones who don't have a family physician ...

    "They can submit their names and all the submissions will be put in the draw."

    Ratcliffe said although its the first time she's heard of it being done in her region, she said it's a fair way to pick patients who don't have a family physician.

    Ratcliffe said, ideally, Nipawin should have four more doctors.

    Sherry Little, the office manager at the Nipawin Medical Group refused to comment on the "patient lottery," only saying "we have six doctors in our clinic."

    Many of the other Canadians that post here have a very different view of Canada's health care system.

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    I'm not sure of how to put a positive spin on being entered in a draw when you need a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1 View Post
    Many of the other Canadians that post here have a very different view of Canada's health care system.
    So, this is not true? If that article is only halfway correct, that is an inexcuseable way to administer health care. My Uncle is from Western Canada, and his view of the medical care in Canada is no where near positive. He lives in Tulsa, and where do you think he prefers to get care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1 View Post
    Many of the other Canadians that post here have a very different view of Canada's health care system.
    So now it's a matter of who you believe on an internet forum to base your conclusions on? Snoopjonny posted a link from a Canadian newspaper which I consider accurate back up to his opinion.

    I've heard more of what Snoopjonny has said from others "directly" so I'm thinking the system has serious flaws. Whatever the case, a lottery for priviledges is completely unacceptable. In the US even in the lowest of charity hospitals, patients are promptly and properly cared for.....But you being a man to gamble on the President will obviously be willing to gamble on choice of Doctors.

    Ultra "think" about chalking this up as another "personal freedom" your Messiah will take away with his Socialized Medicine plans.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopjonnyjon View Post
    I'm not sure of how to put a positive spin on being entered in a draw when you need a doctor.
    You are correct in your opinion and thanks for the article.

    Ignore Ultra's comment, he's in such denial about Obama he isn't going to believe anything no matter what the source.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Texan View Post
    So now it's a matter of who you believe on an internet forum to base your conclusions on? Snoopjonny posted a link from a Canadian newspaper which I consider accurate back up to his opinion.

    I've heard more of what Snoopjonny has said from others "directly" so I'm thinking the system has serious flaws. Whatever the case, a lottery for priviledges is completely unacceptable. In the US even in the lowest of charity hospitals, patients are promptly and properly cared for.....But you being a man to gamble on the President will obviously be willing to gamble on choice of Doctors.

    Ultra "think" about chalking this up as another "personal freedom" your Messiah will take away with his Socialized Medicine plans.....
    Quote Originally Posted by snoopjonnyjon View Post
    I'm not sure of how to put a positive spin on being entered in a draw when you need a doctor.
    As I said, others form your neck of the woods claim Canada's health care system is a good one. Not perfect. However, as Tex said you should probabaly ignore anything I post as I don't walk in lockstep with the far right crowd who run this forum.

    Actually, the BS here has gotton quite deep, and is beginning to smell even worse.







    Tom Brown here has always been an intelligent and reliable source, IMO. I am for health care for all. You're sounding paranoid again Tex.

    BTW, the article make it sound bad. Again there are quite a few Canadians here who feel their health care system is a good one.
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    Who cares what Canada has.Just look at S.S/wellfair/meda care/Are schools and ask your self do you want are Med to be like this.And who going to pay for it.Can you say Ted Kennedy Heath Care Tax.NO MORE TAXES this country was built on people taking care of them selfs there are cases where we need to help.When did it start that were intitled to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1 View Post
    As I said, others form your neck of the woods claim Canada's health care system is a good one. Not perfect. However, as Tex said you should probabaly ignore anything I post as I don't walk in lockstep with the far right crowd who run this forum.

    Actually, the BS here has gotton quite deep, and is beginning to smell even worse.







    Tom Brown here has always been an intelligent and reliable source, IMO. I am for health care for all. You're sounding paranoid again Tex.

    BTW, the article make it sound bad. Again there are quite a few Canadians here who feel their health care system is a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Texan View Post
    Paranoia vs Blind Denial, good choice.......
    Tex, there has been a great deal of discussion about this issue in the past. I listened to the guys from Canada. Apparently, you did not.

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    I haven't talked to Tom about health care... always end up talking cars and bikes instead. I can't remember where exactly he lived now, but if he has a positive view of our system I'd bet he's in a major city. In the 1990's nearly all the small town hospitals were closed and the equipment moved into the cities. On our farm the nearest hospital is 200 miles away, and at that hospital they've been known to turn people away from the emergency room because it is too busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopjonnyjon View Post
    I haven't talked to Tom about health care... always end up talking cars and bikes instead. I can't remember where exactly he lived now, but if he has a positive view of our system I'd bet he's in a major city. In the 1990's nearly all the small town hospitals were closed and the equipment moved into the cities. On our farm the nearest hospital is 200 miles away, and at that hospital they've been known to turn people away from the emergency room because it is too busy.
    I think Tom is near a major city. It sounds like the system isn't very well balanced. Hopefully this gets resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1 View Post
    Tex, there has been a great deal of discussion about this issue in the past. I listened to the guys from Canada. Apparently, you did not.
    Well Mr. Investigator, I've done one better, I worked for a company with 2 regional locations in Montreal and Toronto. I spoke with "fellow employees" on the differences on how our company insurance worked between the 2 countries and how company reps. in rural areas such as what Snoopjonny is talking about had considerable problems with logistics.

    I have a fellow employee/friend that fought off and beat colon cancer mainly because a great deal of his initial treatment was recived in the US.

    Keep listening, one day you are bound to "hear" something.......Like our system ain't broke.
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    Government run healthcare.....the cure to the Social Security problem.

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