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    That is the mean guy I was talking about. If you check the link on canidates in the Wilkepica link for flip flopping you see where McCain calls out Clinton on selling Nuclear warfare to North Korea.
    Clinton sold us out an I think in China as well.

    Maybe ELS has more info on this. This is the stuff that scares me.


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    President Clinton allowed missile aiming technology to be sold to the Chinese after they promised to use it for better satellite positioning. It is estimated that he allowed the Chinese to make up around 10 years on us in nuke missile targeting ability.
    My understanding is that North Korea got it's nuke bomb info from A. Q. Khan the Pakistani who developed "The Islamic Bomb".
    It is not my understanding that Pres Clinton dierectly sold North Korea anything. However, he did foolishly allow them to sucker us into a bad treaty, that allowed them the time etc, that they needed to get their nuke program started up under our noses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eliminatedsprinter View Post
    President Clinton allowed missile aiming technology to be sold to the Chinese after they promised to use it for better satellite positioning. It is estimated that he allowed the Chinese to make up around 10 years on us in nuke missile targeting ability.
    My understanding is that North Korea got it's nuke bomb info from A. Q. Khan the Pakistani who developed "The Islamic Bomb".
    It is not my understanding that Pres Clinton dierectly sold North Korea anything. However, he did foolishly allow them to sucker us into a bad treaty, that allowed them the time etc, that they needed to get their nuke program started up under our noses.
    We can thnak a lot of Clinton's woes on J. Carter making an unauthorized visit and arranging a treaty Willie didn't want but got cornered into.

    One of the goood things Bush did that everyone can agree upon is shun Carter and keep him away form anything official. Hopefully the next President will continue this trend.
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    And NK wants to be taken off the 'axis' list

    North Korea has quietly built a long-range missile base that is larger and more capable than an older and well-known launch pad for intercontinental ballistic missiles, according to independent analysts relying on new satellite images of the site and other data. Analysts provided images of the previously secret site to The Associated Press.



    And Russia's going to be conducting training and maneuvers
    with Columbia:

    Two Russian strategic bombers landed in Venezuela on Wednesday as part of military maneuvers, the government said, announcing an unprecedented deployment to a new ally at a time when both nations are involved in tense relations with the U.S.

    Chavez called the Russian planes' visit part of a move toward a "pluri-polar world" — a reference to moving away from U.S. dominance. "The Yankee hegemony is finished," Chavez said in a televised speech.




    And of course there's this nutjob



    Could the writing on the wall be any clearer?
    Expect an alliance in the future between these SOB's. Throw in the Chinese and the other Arab nations and we've got ourselves one hell of a problem
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    [QUOTE=Gravyboat;337008]
    Two Russian strategic bombers landed in Venezuela on Wednesday as part of military maneuvers, the government said, announcing an unprecedented deployment to a new ally at a time when both nations are involved in tense relations with the U.S.

    Chavez called the Russian planes' visit part of a move toward a "pluri-polar world" — a reference to moving away from U.S. dominance. "The Yankee hegemony is finished," Chavez said in a televised speech.

    This is really big news. Russia is wanting to revisit trying to be number 1. They will use whatever means and countries that help as possible. And what better time for them than when the US is weakend by years of war in the middle east?

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    [quote=scooooter7;337042]
    Quote Originally Posted by Gravyboat View Post
    Two Russian strategic bombers landed in Venezuela on Wednesday as part of military maneuvers, the government said, announcing an unprecedented deployment to a new ally at a time when both nations are involved in tense relations with the U.S.

    Chavez called the Russian planes' visit part of a move toward a "pluri-polar world" — a reference to moving away from U.S. dominance. "The Yankee hegemony is finished," Chavez said in a televised speech.

    This is really big news. Russia is wanting to revisit trying to be number 1. They will use whatever means and countries that help as possible. And what better time for them than when the US is weakend by years of war in the middle east?

    Sort of reminiscent of when the USSR went under fighting in the middle east. I hope we get our shit together here....

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    If you truly want to see a big problem take one hour and watch all 10 parts of this movie on youtube. This is not a time for weakness folks. I've never been more serious.

    The following link is to part one. The rest will be listed in the side bar.


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    Parts 4,6 & 9 are enough to make you sick.

    I'm afraid we don't have the balls to do anything about this.

    Like I said earlier. The USSR's war in the middle east broke their country.

    Look at our sorry shape at the moment.

    Look where we're fighting.

    Look at our bull shit rules of engagement.

    What next????

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    The people that hate us show that more than American's show their pride and stand up for their country.

    I don't think any of these people or threats should be taken lightly. They are a clear danger and when something happens everyone will be sitting there asking "How did this happen in the USA" ?

    Deers in headlights.


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    that movie "red dawn" comes to mind when i think of russia posturing at us from south america. you cali guys/gals better hope they invade thru texas they won't get thru there and if they did, they have to deal with us okies that stock piled ammo during y2k

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    Open your eyes and see what they are teaching their children while we teach our children NOT to hate.

    I can't even fathom this stuff. The hate runs deep with these people. They want to take us all out. Not just men but down to our babies and they will use their babies to do it.

    I have to believe that most American's don't care until it is too late.


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    There was a HD report on the HD new channel this week where this palestinian guy killed this woman's family and a cop in Israel.

    The woman hid in the closet and smothered her other child to death while the husband and her daughter were killed. The palestinian shot the dad execution style and smashed the 3 year old daughters head against a boulder until he killed her. All because they were jews.

    A 3 year old!

    The palestinian was just released by Israel after 30 years in jail and went back to palestine as a hero. They had a military parade and this guy is a hero over there.

    How long until we see this stuff here. Will the left use these events to take away our rights? Will we live in a police state afterwards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    that movie "red dawn" comes to mind when i think of russia posturing at us from south america. you cali guys/gals better hope they invade thru texas they won't get thru there and if they did, they have to deal with us okies that stock piled ammo during y2k
    That would be preferrable, but don't count us Cal boys out just yet. We're not all al bunch of weak-willed gunless hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75 Miller View Post
    That would be preferrable, but don't count us Cal boys out just yet. We're not all al bunch of weak-willed gunless hypocrites.
    lol, sorry didn't mean it that way, i just figured they'd have a harder time taking down san antonio, than san fransisco

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