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    Default Will the election be decided on race??

    http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-...lse-obama-race

    Interesting, more than a 1/3 of all white democrats and independents hold at least one negative adjective on blacks and are less likely to vote for Obama, and he cannot he win the election without them. The pollsters are trying to figure out why Obama is locked in a such a tight race when the nation is in such turmoil with the current republican administration.
    Obama has near unaminous support from blacks. Is it likely these polls could have a lot higher margin of error due to what people say in the polls and what they do in the voting booth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westair View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-...lse-obama-race

    Interesting, more than a 1/3 of all white democrats and independents hold at least one negative adjective on blacks and are less likely to vote for Obama, and he cannot he win the election without them. The pollsters are trying to figure out why Obama is locked in a such a tight race when the nation is in such turmoil with the current republican administration.
    Obama has near unaminous support from blacks. Is it likely these polls could have a lot higher margin of error due to what people say in the polls and what they do in the voting booth.

    I think the Pollsters should ask themselves what they want to change.

    It is sad if people vote the future on skin color etc...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pb123 View Post
    I think the Pollsters should ask themselves what they want to change.

    It is sad if people vote the future on skin color etc...
    If Obama loses its going to be made into a racial issue, and they will completely ignore the fact that he had no business running for President

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    Yes. It'll be decided on nobama winning the nomination as the most left leaning, socialistic member in Senate history (which he is), and then RACING his punk ass towards the center, like some kinda moderate. WHICH HE IS NOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by westair View Post
    If Obama loses its going to be made into a racial issue, and they will completely ignore the fact that he had no business running for President
    Obama's supporters have already made it about race, since if you don't vote for him, you are racist, even if you don't know you are racist "subconciously racist".


    What stupidity.
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    "Enlightened" people may not want to admit publicly that they would not vote for a black person for President.

    But what happens in the privacy of a voting booth may be a different story.

    Before anyone goes all racial and shit on me, I disagree with everything Obama stands for, and would feel the same if he was white, yellow, green, red or purple.

    I will support and vote for the candidate who best reflects my values, morals and ideals. And they would get my vote regardless of race, religion, gender, or political party.
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    That is as it should be Boatcop.

    Unfortunately, not everyone is there, yet.

    Some will NEVER get there, on both sides of races, genders, or religions, let alone political parties.

    I myself have always tried to look at the realities of what the candidates want to do, and what they have done in the past, and have decried the various falsehoods spread by anyone.
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
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    Westair,

    You ask: "Will the election be decided on race?"


    Are you asking whether the Election will be decided on 'Racial Prejudice" (blind prejudice ... 'socially' ingrained white & hispanic prejudice against blacks) or, are you asking if Obama's race, more properly stated ... being of mixed race, will be a significant contributing factor in the Election?

    Before I say more here, and I will if, I think it is appropriate and I can do it in a constructive manner, I'd like to know a little more the context of your question as your question can be answered from at least two differing perspectives .......

    It's an interesting question and I think, should be openly addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1/4 Miler View Post
    Westair,

    You ask: "Will the election be decided on race?"


    Are you asking whether the Election will be decided on 'Racial Prejudice" (blind prejudice ... 'socially' ingrained white & hispanic prejudice against blacks) or, are you asking if Obama's race, more properly stated ... being of mixed race, will be a significant contributing factor in the Election?

    Before I say more here, and I will if, I think it is appropriate and I can do it in a constructive manner, I'd like to know a little more the context of your question as your question can be answered from at least two differing perspectives .......

    It's an interesting question and I think, should be openly addressed.
    I was just posing the question from the link I put up which would be racial prejudice, it said that 40% of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and since this is such a close election could it be the deciding factor or is that why this election is even close. There is no way to ever know because of so many variables.
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    For whatever reason, Lets just pray he looses~
    The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.

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    You ain't seen nothin' yet.

    The Obama campaign will soon bring up the Keating 5 and the Savings and loan failure and McCains part in the whole thing.
    McCain claims he's the guy for the job to fix the current mess?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

    McCains work to block regulation leading to this current crisis goes deep and the Dems will bring this up closer to election time. And bring it up big time they will.

    McCain ain't no angel in all this and he should have known better with his "experience" with the S&L failure & bailout and Keating.

    We are all going to pay for it:
    Gas at the pump is back on the rise because the bailout is weakening the dollar furthur. Takes more dollars to buy a BBl of oil.

    Their isnt a dimes worth of difference between the partys.
    They are all in this, but McCain is the only guy that stuck around.

    It's not who's got a black face, it's whos got a dirty face from this financial mess and it's going be McCain when the ads start rolling closer to the election.
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    I think race just due to human nature will be a factor. I see a higher percentage of black folks voting for O because he's black. A like number of white folks, though a far smaller percentage of total white voters, will vote against him because he's black.

    I believe there are far more people voting against the Republican party rather than for Obama. As we've seen on this forum few O supporters can tell us why they are voting "for him", so I feel this is proof their "lesser of evils" viewpoint is they are voting agianst the Republican ticket whether it's McCain or any one else.

    Unless we see a VP candidate change out, we'll also have a good number of women voters switch to elect a ticket with Palin on it. Hillary had a lot of support from feminists who will favor Palin because she's a woman inspite of her contrasting beliefs to Hillary's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoatCop View Post
    "Enlightened" people may not want to admit publicly that they would not vote for a black person for President.

    But what happens in the privacy of a voting booth may be a different story.

    Before anyone goes all racial and shit on me, I disagree with everything Obama stands for, and would feel the same if he was white, yellow, green, red or purple.

    I will support and vote for the candidate who best reflects my values, morals and ideals. And they would get my vote regardless of race, religion, gender, or political party.
    You all are not old enough to remember Martin Luther Kings first nationally televised speach:

    "The average white american is not predjudice against colored people" MLK said.
    Then over the next 6 months the news showed Jim Crow conditions in the south.

    When whites around the USA saw and heard this all hell broke loose and polititians all ran for cover.
    So:

    LBJ was trying desperately to get Civil Rights legislation passed and Democratic Sens Byrd & Strom Thurmond were leading the fillabuster to block it.

    LBJ reached out to the Republicans to get the legislation passed of which the Republicians did.

    LBJ

    McCain has his political warts, but Obama is still running on that something for nothing "a chicken in every pot" rhetoric.

    It's the people that work and are self-reliant that add value to our economy and the American dollar.
    They don't live on a something for nothing philosopy.
    They'll vote against Obama because of what he stands for ,, not the color of his skin.
    Last edited by TPC; 09-22-2008 at 09:53 AM.
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