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    So far, I have to commend both McCain and Obama. They are actually talking issues. Trying to be objective, I think McCain has put Obama on his heels. Obama seems to be spending the majority of his time trying to defend this or that position. McCain definitely is doing well.

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    I thought McCain gave O'bama a lesson on foriegn policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticoH20 View Post
    I thought McCain gave O'bama a lesson on foriegn policy
    Not that big a task, considering experience (or lack thereof) . I believe McCain "schooled" the young-un', in that regard.
    I am biased, Yes, but I think that as real issues come to the front, Obama's deficiencies will be revealed more and more. My .02.
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    Mc Cain had Osama studdering a few times. Saw Osama get a little flustered over things that Mc Cain said that he just had to take issue with. Mc Cain had Osama on the defensive more than Osama had Mc Cain defensive. Mc Cain-1 Osama-0 IMO...Mc Cain whip him like a rented mule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    Mc Cain had Osama studdering a few times. Saw Osama get a little flustered over things that Mc Cain said that he just had to take issue with. Mc Cain had Osama on the defensive more than Osama had Mc Cain defensive. Mc Cain-1 Osama-0 IMO...Mc Cain whip him like a rented mule.
    No surprise here.

    Obama's entire campaign relies on scripted, un-challenged rhetoric. There is no real defense against logic, or hard questions about real life issues.
    The Dem's, in my opinion, have marched out an ambitious, almost novel, candidate that is woefully unqualified to lead the free world.
    McCain is not the gift of God by any stretch, but he is not a "Star Search" contestant either, like I get the feeling Obama is. Especially after this.
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    One thing that really stuck with me was McCains comparison of the US to Ireland in the tax arena. I'm a self employed business owner so that probably resonates more for me than many. With that being said, it doesn't take a genious to figure out that if you keep making the US a hostile environment for business, and growth, that jobs will continue to leave here by the thousands. It is absolutely assanine to me to push an agenda to tax, tax, and more tax. I'm not sure about others that own their own business's but for me, at my present age(40), I'm beginning to decide what I'm going to do for longterm investments. I hate to admit it, but I'm seriously considering not attempting to expand my business but rather look for investment in offshore areas that will help reduce the amounts I have to give back to the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    No surprise here.

    Obama's entire campaign relies on scripted, un-challenged rhetoric. There is no real defense against logic, or hard questions about real life issues.
    The Dem's, in my opinion, have marched out an ambitious, almost novel, candidate that is woefully unqualified to lead the free world.
    McCain is not the gift of God by any stretch, but he is not a "Star Search" contestant either, like I get the feeling Obama is. Especially after this.
    Mc Cain's take on the Middle east was alot more refined and concise than Osama's. I could see Mc Cain waltzing Osama around the floor like Fred Astare leading Ginger Rodgers in one of those silly musicals that my wife loves to watch. Next debate will be interesting as I think the topics will be slanted in Osama's favor. Next debate Osama's guns will be loaded for bear but I think Mc Cain will be ready. Youth and enthusiasm is no match for old age and treachery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redneckcharlie View Post
    One thing that really stuck with me was McCains comparison of the US to Ireland in the tax arena. I'm a self employed business owner so that probably resonates more for me than many. With that being said, it doesn't take a genious to figure out that if you keep making the US a hostile environment for business, and growth, that jobs will continue to leave here by the thousands. It is absolutely assanine to me to push an agenda to tax, tax, and more tax. I'm not sure about others that own their own business's but for me, at my present age(40), I'm beginning to decide what I'm going to do for longterm investments. I hate to admit it, but I'm seriously considering not attempting to expand my business but rather look for investment in offshore areas that will help reduce the amounts I have to give back to the government.

    Stifling growth seems to be an arena that escapes the Dem. party line.
    Goes right back to the re-distribution deal. It seems that they think that "adjustments" will not be made by those like yourself (and Me).
    I am 47, a self employed directional drilling "consultant" who also does the actual work.
    It took a lot of work, suffering, and many years to get to this point, I'm not about to hand it over.
    Ever been to Loretto (sp) Mexico? That's where I plan on spending a big chunk of my hard earned cash should anyone try to confiscate more than I am willing to give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Stifling growth seems to be an arena that escapes the Dem. party line.
    Goes right back to the re-distribution deal. It seems that they think that "adjustments" will not be made by those like yourself (and Me).
    I am 47, a self employed directional drilling "consultant" who also does the actual work.
    It took a lot of work, suffering, and many years to get to this point, I'm not about to hand it over.
    Ever been to Loretto (sp) Mexico? That's where I plan on spending a big chunk of my hard earned cash should anyone try to confiscate more than I am willing to give up.
    I've never been to Loretto Mexico, but I have spent a great deal of time in San Carlos which is next to Guaymas. My Old man has actually invested a great deal down there. I'm not as big a fan of down south as he is, but I completely see why he likes it. The really sad thing about this, is that I'm not the only one that is thinking like this. This is not something that I'm particularly fond of doing, but I'm like you, I'm tired of spending damn near half my year and time just to pay taxes. The one thing that many in this country simply do not get, is the vastness of the global economy when it comes to investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redneckcharlie View Post
    I've never been to Loretto Mexico, but I have spent a great deal of time in San Carlos which is next to Guaymas. My Old man has actually invested a great deal down there. I'm not as big a fan of down south as he is, but I completely see why he likes it. The really sad thing about this, is that I'm not the only one that is thinking like this. This is not something that I'm particularly fond of doing, but I'm like you, I'm tired of spending damn near half my year and time just to pay taxes. The one thing that many in this country simply do not get, is the vastness of the global economy when it comes to investment.
    Costa Rica is looking pretty good. Might be worth a trip down there a snoop around a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homez View Post
    Do you figure Mc Cain gained some ground back in the polls based on his performance tonight?
    The comparisons by MSNBC and Fox should be entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homez View Post
    Do you figure Mc Cain gained some ground back in the polls based on his performance tonight?
    I think it really depends on what someone was trying to take from this debate. I'm biased, but I think McCain did well. I don't think Obama did bad. The reality of the situation is that anybody that thinks either of these two men have the power to actually change the situation in life they are in, is going to be severly disappointed. Its always easier to promise the world to someone to attain the situation your seeking. Its pretty much the whole bait and switch routine when it comes to sales. Considering the current state of affairs in this country, had Obama come out in the beginning being very pro business and economic growth, he would have walked away with the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    Costa Rica is looking pretty good. Might be worth a trip down there a snoop around a bit.
    Actually I'm thinking Ireland sounds pretty good. They already have a major plus for me. That would be fairly decent whiskeys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redneckcharlie View Post
    Actually I'm thinking Ireland sounds pretty good. They already have a major plus for me. That would be fairly decent whiskeys!
    And Guinness too. Also Australia looks pretty good, I have family there.

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