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Why shouldn't I support President Obama

Originally Posted by Uminchu

What does that mean, "why should I support him?" He's the President of the United States, and you are an American. Is it not our patriotic duty to support a duly-elected President?

If we don't like his leadership, we can easily vote him out in about two years.

If you are looking for reasons to dislike him, or if you are like the majority of the posters in this forum, there are a myriad of reasons both real, and imagined to do your level best to minimize his Presidency.

To some of us, this is not Patriotic, to others of us, it is our duty to log onto a website and do nothing but whine and complain, even though half of us never even registered to vote in the first place.

In my 49 years, I have always agreed with your reasoning. I ALWAYS respected the position, and He who held it my entire life.
UNTIL this wreck obtained the office.
There is NO WAY I can support a jackwad who lied on many fronts making unobtainable promises to secure the votes to win, has ZERO financial business experience, has ZERO military experience (perhaps the biggest insult to those in uniform), has questionable motives at the very least, spends money we don't have like a pissed off wife readying for a divorce (a divorce which is all but guaranteed), is combative and litigious towards States solely to secure or maintain the same voter base who he lied to the most, with NO consideration of that States best interest.
Is bent on accelerating debt from bad to unrecoverable, lies about his heritage and financial past to a degree which is anybodys' guess as all his records are sealed at taxpayer expense.
Appoints "czars" who have committed offenses (taxes, for instance) that would land You or I in jail, uses EVERY situation from the Oil spill to terrorist trials for political posturing, has no viable plan for anything and thinks he rates an A-. (The "minus" being the sole allowance that his egotistical, self important, narcissistic mind will allow)

Yeah, thats a respectable person right there.

I never would have believed that I would EVER speak about a POTUS like this, no matter how PO'd they made me.
Seriously, and like you, it angered me when I heard people do it before.
But with this ABSOLUTE POS, it is very easy.

Let me ask you this. As a military man, would you blindly follow his orders in the field if he was, say, a fresh lieutenant just out of school?
As a business man, would you invest money with him, knowing he has never turned a profit or earned a dime that wasn't a hand out in some form?
He is "leader" of the United States of America, and he isn't qualified to run a damned lemonade stand.
If he did, he would lie about the ingredients to make sales, take a loan and buy out every competitor with some one elses money, buy the supplies on credit, stiff the suppliers, collect ALL the revenue, then file bankruptcy, stiff his lender and retire, leaving EVERYBODY along the way to foot his bill, then blame every one else for letting him do it.
Bet it.

Originally Posted by Uminchu

Then I found out he acted on faulty intelligence, and KNEW he acted on faulty intelligence, and that Powell was setup. I found this out at about the same time seven friends of mine died in a small, unknown operation.

Prove it.

Originally Posted by Uminchu

http://intelligence.senate.gov/press....cfm?id=298775

There has been a Sadamn insider come forward and say, "Yes, Sadamn HAD WMD, he moved them to Pakistan prior to the invasion"..... Will we ever know for sure? I doubt it, but it is just as easy to say he did, as it is to say he didn't....Ray

Originally Posted by Uminchu

Well, that just makes you part of the problem. If your mind was made up, why make this post? There are many others you could have added to that are all about de-legitimizing his Presidency.



I served when President Bush was Commander in Chief. I supported him both because it was required of me to do so, and because I believed in him.

When he went on TV and told us about Iraq, I believed him. When Colin Powell went to the UN security councel with slides about WMD, I still believed him.

Then I found out he acted on faulty intelligence, and KNEW he acted on faulty intelligence, and that Powell was setup. I found this out at about the same time seven friends of mine died in a small, unknown operation.

I wasn't angry because my friends died. I was angry because some wealthy, arrogant prick cared so little about those of us who not only defended his decisions, but followed his orders.

Yet I didn't come even close to publically stating the half truths, quotes from pundits, and un-patriotic crap I see posted here.

You asked the question. I gave you my answer from my gut.

And Condi Rice, did she have a play in the decision?

And the Senate Foreign Arms commitee, did they have any part in the decision?

And NSA, did they have any part in the intel?

And the Joint Chiefs of Staff, did they play any part in the decision to take out Saddam?

The CIA/FBI/Secret Service, did they participate in the "HOAX"?

The Executive/Legislative branch special security committees, did they help conjure up the "faulty evidence"?

The Arms Control and International Security Agency?

The Helsinki Commission?

The DIA/DLA/DSCA/DSS/DTRA/DOD/DHS/DOI/DOJ/ Defense Inspector General/Director of National Intel/European Command/State Department and the other host of defense agencies, did they all play along in the charade?

How about the black ops intel groups, were they part of the cover up?

Please highlight in line which groups were part of the scam OR was it G.W. and Dick Cheney alone that fabricated the false intel????

Originally Posted by Uminchu

You posted a pretty long list. Some of them were covering their asses, Condi had no clue, NSA had been out of the intell business for years.

Rafid Ahmed Alwan gave the BND bullshit information, and the Bush admimistration ran with it, and had Powell on stage even as the CIA and DIA warned the administration they hadn't verified the information, nor were UN inspectors able to verify.

Condi had no clue yet she was part of the Bush Admin?

NSA doesn't/didn't still run Echelon/Carnivore/Omnivore/DravonWare?