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Unions Determined to Take Over All Buisiness's

It seems the NLRB has determined they want to make all employers post letters telling thier employees about thier right to unionize thier place of work. Well I may have to post it but they didn't say I couldn't post my own notice below it. We will post that as you have the right to organize I also have the right to shut the place down. Sell off the inventory, equipment and building and retire.

http://www.employerlawreport.com/201...ing-more-easy/

Originally Posted by AzMandella

It seems the NLRB has determined they want to make all employers post letters telling thier employees about thier right to unionize thier place of work. Well I may have to post it but they didn't say I couldn't post my own notice below it. We will post that as you have the right to organize I also have the right to shut the place down. Sell off the inventory, equipment and building and retire.

http://www.employerlawreport.com/201...ing-more-easy/

It aint the unions, it's Charles J Morgan a professer at Southern Methodist who filed a petition for hearing on the posting of "right to union" signs at the work place.

This may not even affect your business according to the NLRB here.

Here are the actual requirements on which businesses would be affected.

It shouldn't be an issue. If 30% of your employees want a union, you can get a petition of 30% of the others against it.

Working for the Gov, a contractor was contacted by a union who promised all sorts of pay raises and benefits. It was comical, as I was quoted in a local newspaper as supporting it. I never talked to the union, and hung up on them several times after giving them the phone number of our councel.

What I did tell the contract employees was that their pay was set within the Federal contract, and that this was not going to change- thus any promises concerning their pay by the union should be viewed with skeptism.

Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1

Well closing down S Steel is one way to stop your employees from forming or joining a union.

Seems silly but if closing your doors, putting yourself and others out of work to keep the union out of your Dad's business is what you want, you go for it Marvin.

And we will. Funny how you libs think that employees have the right to tell people what they can and cannot do with thier business's even if they are obeying every state and federal labor law. And the employee's get to make the decision. Unionize and loose thier jobs or continue to work hard and get ahead in life. I would not loose a wink of sleep. Infact early retirement would be nice. Just think about it U. If every business in america was forced into unions what would that do to the cost of doing business ? And how many more business's would leave the country. It would be the death nail in our country. You talk a good story. If you are so for unions why have you and your company(that you say you are part owner of) not encouraged them to unionize if you think it is the right thing to do?

Originally Posted by Uminchu

It aint the unions, it's Charles J Morgan a professer at Southern Methodist who filed a petition for hearing on the posting of "right to union" signs at the work place.

This may not even affect your business according to the NLRB here.

Here are the actual requirements on which businesses would be affected.

It shouldn't be an issue. If 30% of your employees want a union, you can get a petition of 30% of the others against it.

Working for the Gov, a contractor was contacted by a union who promised all sorts of pay raises and benefits. It was comical, as I was quoted in a local newspaper as supporting it. I never talked to the union, and hung up on them several times after giving them the phone number of our councel.

What I did tell the contract employees was that their pay was set within the Federal contract, and that this was not going to change- thus any promises concerning their pay by the union should be viewed with skeptism.

We alraedy lost 75% of our business to unions. we will not go through it again. We'll see if I have to or not but you cannot believe that the unions are not all for this.

Originally Posted by AzMandella

We alraedy lost 75% of our business to unions. we will not go through it again. We'll see if I have to or not but you cannot believe that the unions are not all for this.

The only thing in the proposal that changed is your requirement to post the signs. They've always had the "opportunity" to form a union.

As I read through the links, I got the impression that it doesn't apply to smaller businesses, and they even said they wouldn't fine businesses for not posting the signs. Looks like BS to me and I'd probably just blow it off, or tell them "if you all want to organize a union, feel free to do so, but we can't pay you anymore than we are now."

Those union dues are about as much money as the employees would try to milk out of you anyway. I'd hate to see you close doors by the way.

Originally Posted by AzMandella

And we will. Funny how you libs think that employees have the right to tell people what they can and cannot do with thier business's even if they are obeying every state and federal labor law. And the employee's get to make the decision. Unionize and loose thier jobs or continue to work hard and get ahead in life. I would not loose a wink of sleep. Infact early retirement would be nice. Just think about it U. If every business in america was forced into unions what would that do to the cost of doing business ? And how many more business's would leave the country. It would be the death nail in our country. You talk a good story. If you are so for unions why have you and your company(that you say you are part owner of) not encouraged them to unionize if you think it is the right thing to do?

I'm neither pro or anti union.

There are no unions in the industry that I work in.

Originally Posted by Uminchu

The only thing in the proposal that changed is your requirement to post the signs. They've always had the "opportunity" to form a union.

As I read through the links, I got the impression that it doesn't apply to smaller businesses, and they even said they wouldn't fine businesses for not posting the signs. Looks like BS to me and I'd probably just blow it off, or tell them "if you all want to organize a union, feel free to do so, but we can't pay you anymore than we are now."

Those union dues are about as much money as the employees would try to milk out of you anyway. I'd hate to see you close doors by the way.

I guess this is thier next tactic since they couldn't get Card Check through. What a joke the unions wanted to be able to know who was voting against them so they could intimidate them. Now they think it is a business's responsibility to tell employees they have the right to unionize. I hope I don't have to shut down either. Do you really think we would like to put people out of work and loose our business and the future generations of our families future ? But ther is no way in hell I will deal with unions again.

Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1

I'm neither pro or anti union.

NOw that's funny U. You defend unions all the time and talk about what a great thing they have done for your friends. Yet your not pro union enough to institute it in your business ? You sir are a hypocrite.

There are no unions in the industry that I work in.

Not yet

Originally Posted by AzMandella

It seems the NLRB has determined they want to make all employers post letters telling thier employees about thier right to unionize thier place of work. Well I may have to post it but they didn't say I couldn't post my own notice below it. We will post that as you have the right to organize I also have the right to shut the place down. Sell off the inventory, equipment and building and retire.

http://www.employerlawreport.com/201...ing-more-easy/

Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1

Well closing down S Steel is one way to stop your employees from forming or joining a union.

Seems silly but if closing your doors, putting yourself and others out of work to keep the union out of your Dad's business is what you want, you go for it Marvin.

Originally Posted by AzMandella

And we will. Funny how you libs think that employees have the right to tell people what they can and cannot do with thier business's even if they are obeying every state and federal labor law. And the employee's get to make the decision. Unionize and loose thier jobs or continue to work hard and get ahead in life. I would not loose a wink of sleep. Infact early retirement would be nice. Just think about it U. If every business in america was forced into unions what would that do to the cost of doing business ? And how many more business's would leave the country. It would be the death nail in our country. You talk a good story. If you are so for unions why have you and your company(that you say you are part owner of) not encouraged them to unionize if you think it is the right thing to do?

Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1

I'm neither pro or anti union.

There are no unions in the industry that I work in.

Originally Posted by AzMandella

NOw that's funny U. You defend unions all the time and talk about what a great thing they have done for your friends. Yet your not pro union enough to institute it in your business ? You sir are a hypocrite.


Not yet

"You libbies" "You defending unions" "You sir are a hypocrite" Lol

Interesting responses. Do you think you might have over reacted just a bit????

Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1

"You libbies" "You defending unions" "You sir are a hypocrite" Lol

Interesting responses. Do you think you might have over reacted just a bit????

In your case ? Not one bit.

Originally Posted by AzMandella

I guess this is thier next tactic since they couldn't get Card Check through. What a joke the unions wanted to be able to know who was voting against them so they could intimidate them. Now they think it is a business's responsibility to tell employees they have the right to unionize. I hope I don't have to shut down either. Do you really think we would like to put people out of work and loose our business and the future generations of our families future ? But ther is no way in hell I will deal with unions again.

I made a mistake- it's Charles Morris who is doing this. Note the wrote the NLRB and acts. But the dude isn't in with the unions that I can find.

If you want to see where this dude is coming from, look at his book review. I hate to piss you off on New Year's Day, but this guy is over the top.

http://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/...taf?ti_id=4218