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No Autoclave carbon fiber

Just throwing this out to see what conversation it sparks.
The material is a non-autoclave carbon fiber that sets as if it had been
through autoclave (neat technology), can stop AK and 30.06 round
at PBR of 40feet, wont burn (stealth fighters can catch fire),
can be exothermically (structural bond) attached to closed cell foam.
And some other microscopic cool additives. Material can be used in current
fiberglass boat molds without destroying it.
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picture is a test panel with hand held torch taken at 2pm today, foam wont burn either.

What do you folks think?

Using fireproof resin? We have used it with good success.

Paul

Any updates?

You still there? Looks interesting..still looking for some info

Originally Posted by rampgirlll

How's it do when it barrel rolls at 200mph?

the ride should be fun, the material shown is 5x stronger than fiberglass, it can be made stronger to suite
plus the foam wont fly off and is integrated on all surfaces.

Originally Posted by kurtis500

Interesting. I deal with autoclave and OOA materials all the time. Here's the questions for you, 1. Epoxy, BMI, polyimide? Which one? 2. Curing requirements? Oven, room temp? 3. Prepregged? VARTM? 4. Carbon is not usually used as a ballistic material. Aramids generally handle that. I see the 'foam' is the bulk of the material here so I'm assuming this handles the ballistic impact. 5. Is the foam machined from a casting or 2 part liquid? 6. The carbon looks like its around 1/8 on both sides. Correct? Which means this was probably cured under vacuum and probably temperature? 7. What did you mean by exothermally bonded? Im guessing this is heat cured to the foam. It will be interesting to see the answers. Current boat molds are typically gelcoat/fiberglass in construction and have a low Tg.

Cures in less than half an hour, no oven, chemical drivin, carbon is not typically used as ballistic material however it is easily done (well not easy) but kevlar requires several steps to be a good boat material, the stuff is water loving.
the foam in the picture was just a mock up panel, so not to scale, and the foam is not the ballistic impact, foam is not machined, poured inplace, again process does not harm fiberglass. We can talk more in private if you looking at using for product to be sold on market.

Originally Posted by fc-Pilot

Using fireproof resin? We have used it with good success.

Paul

yes some good fireproof resins are available, the one being put to the test is a spec material
not available to general public and produced under license.

Originally Posted by kurtis500

You still there? Looks interesting..still looking for some info

pm me

Im actually curious about the specs on the resin. You probably have a data sheet?

Is this a polyester/vinyl ester/iso/ortho type resin or an epoxy?

There's a lot of resins and resin blends out there for many reasons. The best thing to promote the resin is to openly give the key advantages and lab test data. Theres no engineer in the world who will move forward without it..

Heres an example of an out-of-autoclave material with a spec sheet http://www.in-tec.com/news/X5320_info.pdf


Sounds interesting, lets see what you got. I have connections..

Originally Posted by kurtis500

Im actually curious about the specs on the resin. You probably have a data sheet?

Is this a polyester/vinyl ester/iso/ortho type resin or an epoxy?

There's a lot of resins and resin blends out there for many reasons. The best thing to promote the resin is to openly give the key advantages and lab test data. Theres no engineer in the world who will move forward without it..

Heres an example of an out-of-autoclave material with a spec sheet http://www.in-tec.com/news/X5320_info.pdf


Sounds interesting, lets see what you got. I have connections..

Yes the docs exist from MSDS to lab performance, recipes and tech are patented, lab testing conducted at various universities, indie labs, and gov. Wont post spec sheets here, but I can send you the data
sheets and sample, if its for manufacturing boats and you would like to do so by offering the same product at the same price just lighter and stronger. On the previous about car vs kev see pics below.

Front

Back

kev

Originally Posted by kurtis500

Im actually curious about the specs on the resin. You probably have a data sheet?

Is this a polyester/vinyl ester/iso/ortho type resin or an epoxy?

There's a lot of resins and resin blends out there for many reasons. The best thing to promote the resin is to openly give the key advantages and lab test data. Theres no engineer in the world who will move forward without it..

Heres an example of an out-of-autoclave material with a spec sheet http://www.in-tec.com/news/X5320_info.pdf


Sounds interesting, lets see what you got. I have connections..

The strength and performance improvements are not predicated on the chemical type, it comes down to additives, timing, and dependent reactions, so you could use any of the above, which would you prefer.