I had my first ride in a Biesemeyer today. I WANT ONE !!!! But I will NEVER get in the passenger set of one again. Of course I did make the mistake of saying "OK, show me what this thing can do". Aparently thats not a smart thing to say. It made my boat feel like, well, like JUNK. Sure it was faster, thats a given, I race the pontoon boats out there. But it was also smoother, more stable, and it turned HARD !! Someday, I will have one. Thanks for the ride HotWater.