Jerry, I'm not sure the gull bottom was ever in a flat deck. And I'm also not sure that the std. deck was in 73.
I cannot comment on '73's, since I've never owned a Sanger (flat) newer than '72, HOWEVER ....my 1972 17'-10" was definitely a gullwing bottom and it had a kind of rare flat deck with a kind of turned up lip around the dash. Not like the earlier smooth flat deck. I've only seen (photo's) of 2-3 others like mine. I'll see if I have some better pics to post. Jocko
At about the same time they came out with a jet hull that was not the bubbledeck and it had the same type design on the deck. We were a Sanger dealer at Los Altos Marine in those years and we sold alot of those jets but today I never see them. We were a dealer about the last year of the so called "flat deck" hull. Then the gull came in the bubble deck. Very popular boat. We built one that did 104 in the quarter with a single carburated 454. Back then the Can Am class was huge and Jim Hall was the guy. We used his heads and camshaft combo and the boat hauled ass. For about 3 years we were kings at Skiers Beach outta Orowood on the delta with that boat. Aahh the memories.
So if you had a gull bottom with the flat style deck...it musta been a rare boat indeed.
I have a 74 with a Flat Deck and a Gull Bottom, everyone that has seen it so far says that is a different combo, don't remember one like that. It definately has a very shallow keel line and rocker down both sides. Last night I put a straight edge from the keel across to outside chine "edge of hull" from the bow water line every 6" all the way down the hull to where the plates are recessed and measured the gap between the straight edge and the hull with calipers and it is a consistant 5/8" or so down the middle of the rocker and tapers to down to a flat pad at the plates. The rockers or Gull shape in the hull are about 15" across pretty much the length of the hull. And Yes it turns very well, would like to learn more about this Hull..........
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They did make them, we have one (black and blue). I dont know how rare they are? Open the last picture to full screen and you can see the gull bottom and flat deck. Not a bubble deck. Next to it is my Hondo and its FLAT!
As Jaco said, the deck has a kind of turned up lip to it.
I'll paddle my flat before I drive anything else!
I think that was there circle boat. At one time apba had a 5/8" max on the droped chine
here's my brothers 73 17/10 straight deck sanger gullwing. If you look at the second pic of the bottom it has a concave shape all the way back to the plates. It also has a solid cav plate with a drop rear chine on either side. Ill take a pic of the boats bottom flipped over as were stripping it for a repaint.
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There ya go! That is the same hull that I had. VERY fast for a [technically] true flat hull. No BS, I ran a 461" BBC with a 6-71 blower 17% over with closed chamber heads, 2 1050 Dominators on Av-Gas. It spun a 37% gear 7,200 with a 15 pitch Cary prop. With a 15% slip factor that's 119 mph! This hull was nearly as efficient as a runner bottom. That Sanger was the best boat I ever owned. I was never beat for 5 years as a Lake racer in Lakeport, CA. (1987-1993)
I embarrassed alot of so-called "race boats"! Jocko
If that Sanger was never beaten at Lakeport, it is a good thing that you didn't run into my 22' Schiada that ran 65 MPH in '74 I used to cruse around Clear Lake just looking for guy like you I would of,,,...................................... Oh never mind
We built 17-10/18/6/18-10 raised deck, some throu the mid '70s. I built the plug and molds for the bubble deck circle racer 18-3 in 1970. I then built bubble deck drag hulls, runner bottom circle racers, and runner bottom drag hulls. During this time I built the pickle fork hydro plug and molds. I also built the v-bottom jet bubble deck and the mini cruiser. Most of the names now used were added after the production started. Some of the model names have been added recently.
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