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    Hey guys, I am new here,seems to be full of some crazy rides here.

    I have been looking for a fun boat for a while,(I want like 500-600hp) and a month ago I found a vdrive local to me, but I am not sure if it is set up right.

    The guy says "it will do about 70" (no speedo)with a the mild 350 in it. It used to have a big block. Has casale 10 drive, and it is a 70' howard flat v drive 18ft.


    I was just offered a jet boat with a 460 with 450+ hp, "rare 1974 Biesemeyer Jet Boat For sale It is one of 12 made" he says.

    Looks nice, and more power than the v drive, but I wonder if the v is more fun, or raw. Plus I can always swap the motor in the v.


    what is easier to own a jet, or a v drive, or less hassle?

    Thanks.
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    This should sum it up for you. And if you're not into speed get an outboard.


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    This is what I am looking at.
    this is the video below, click the link
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    1970 Howard, flat bottom, V-drive, 18 ft, left hand drive w/gas pedal, closed bow, hull in perfect condition. 2 seats facing forward and 2 facing backward, Runs great. Chevy smallblock 350 out of 1976 Corvette, Vortec heads w/machine work done, brand new Edelbrock performer rpm air-gap intake, brand new edelbrock marine 750 cfm carb, upside down hedman headers w/header wrap and harley-davidson chrome tips, all brand new ignition: delco plugs, accel racing wires, cap, rotor, coil. Brand new Optima battery. Entire boat rewired. Casale V-drive w/1 speed forward and 1 speed reverse. Tandem axle trailer-pulls awesome! easy to manuever! Incredibly easy to load and unload boat!! Brand new axle bearings and seals. All new wiring on trailer. I've owned the boat for over 8 years and used it twice in the last three years, hopefully someone else can use it more. Needs no work, just add water. Call or e-mail to get address where it's parked or hear it run. No speedo-speed unknown. Clean and clear titles for both boat and trailer
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    Nice looking boat. A lot of it depends on what you want to do with it and how much you are looking at spending. The V-drive will be faster hp for hp. The jet works better in some of the low water situations.

    The boat you posted up is set up as a lake boat, definitely not as a race boat or even as a lake hot rod to occasionally race (way too far under the dash to risk getting tossed). The rear seats are not very functional especially if you are planning on putting kids in them. It's still a nice looking boat though.
    How is the seating on the Beisemeyer set up and does it fit your boating style better? Check either boat over carefully for delamination of the fiberglass and other structural problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp Shooter View Post
    This should sum it up for you. And if you're not into speed get an outboard.

    My offer is always good Jerry, bring your v-drive up to the Delta and if you can stay with my outboard I'll give you $10,000 dollars. We'll be going for more than a 1/4 mile though! You've been wanting a new enclosed trailer......I'm pretty sure $10k would cover that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    Nice looking boat. A lot of it depends on what you want to do with it and how much you are looking at spending. The V-drive will be faster hp for hp. The jet works better in some of the low water situations.

    The boat you posted up is set up as a lake boat, definitely not as a race boat or even as a lake hot rod to occasionally race (way too far under the dash to risk getting tossed). The rear seats are not very functional especially if you are planning on putting kids in them. It's still a nice looking boat though.
    How is the seating on the Beisemeyer set up and does it fit your boating style better? Check either boat over carefully for delamination of the fiberglass and other structural problems.

    Thanks, I have had pleasure cruisers, and fishing boats, but now I want a performance boat (the back seats don't matter much). The seating in the jet boat, is 2 race seats, it was a race boat, has sponsors and stuff on it.

    The v drive comes on a tandem trailer, the jet does not.

    The jet has more power, but I heard the v drives, take less to go fast, so I though they might be close.

    How often to rebuild jet stuff, compared to running the v drive?

    (the water line was disconnected from the drive on the v too) I hope I can hook it back up.

    thanks

    Oh yeah, the v drive is 2800
    the jet is 8k with tons invested he says.

    Both claim about 70 mph. If the v drive really did 70 with a 350 I am sure I would take that.
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    I would say go with the v-drive, but then again I am biased. I will say the jet is probably better riding in rough water.


    By the way, more than a 1/4 mile. Is there life after a 1/4? Get real, take the weed whacked crap somewhere else. In my opinion the only thing whackers are good for is pushing around dinghies.....
    "Second place is the first loser...."
    Thank God I own a V-drive and not a jet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwizer View Post
    I would say go with the v-drive, but then again I am biased. I will say the jet is probably better riding in rough water.


    By the way, more than a 1/4 mile. Is there life after a 1/4? Get real, take the weed whacked crap somewhere else. In my opinion the only thing whackers are good for is pushing around dinghies.....
    So does that boat look fair to you, if I could get it for like 2500?

    Do you believe, or have you ever heard of a mild 350 v drive hitting 70mph?

    I mean I will have to take a ride in it, but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCREAM'N MAD View Post
    So does that boat look fair to you, if I could get it for like 2500?

    Do you believe, or have you ever heard of a mild 350 v drive hitting 70mph?

    I mean I will have to take a ride in it, but....
    When I first started reading this I thought...mild 350 v-drive, racing jet BB...about the same...

    Both are solid hulls, but drop a BB in the Howard and now you are closing on 90 easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwizer View Post
    I would say go with the v-drive, but then again I am biased. I will say the jet is probably better riding in rough water.


    By the way, more than a 1/4 mile. Is there life after a 1/4? Get real, take the weed whacked crap somewhere else. In my opinion the only thing whackers are good for is pushing around dinghies.....
    For your junk there isn't life after a 1/4 mile because it's probably already broke. And if you didn't already know, Jerry's boat isn't a drag boat anyway, so he should have no problem running with me for mile after mile. I know outboards aren't quick in the 1/4, but that doesn't mean they're slow! My stock pleasure boat will run 120 mph, how fast is your flat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayzor View Post
    For your junk there isn't life after a 1/4 mile because it's probably already broke. And if you didn't already know, Jerry's boat isn't a drag boat anyway, so he should have no problem running with me for mile after mile. I know outboards aren't quick in the 1/4, but that doesn't mean they're slow! My stock pleasure boat will run 120 mph, how fast is your flat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lebel409 View Post
    When I first started reading this I thought...mild 350 v-drive, racing jet BB...about the same...

    Both are solid hulls, but drop a BB in the Howard and now you are closing on 90 easy...
    I would argue the "90" easy...more like 75 maybe. Of course depending on the big block. What I will say..the Howard would beat 80% of the jets with a mild BBC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattle Can Lou View Post
    I would argue the "90" easy...more like 75 maybe. Of course depending on the big block. What I will say..the Howard would beat 80% of the jets with a mild BBC.
    Okay, that is getting more to the point. the howard probably does go ok with the 350 in it???

    Well I guess I have to think about it. I can buy the either out right, but the howard seems like cheap fun. The jet wants to trade for a vette that I have to then sell performance parts for.

    One thing I don't like to hear is that a big block only makes it go 75.

    This guy claims the howard does about 70 with:

    Chevy smallblock 350 out of 1976 Corvette, Vortec heads w/machine work done, brand new Edelbrock performer rpm air-gap intake, brand new edelbrock marine 750 cfm carb, upside down hedman headers w/header wrap and harley-davidson chrome tips, all brand new ignition: delco plugs, accel racing wires, cap, rotor, coil. Brand new Optima battery
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCREAM'N MAD View Post
    So does that boat look fair to you, if I could get it for like 2500?

    Do you believe, or have you ever heard of a mild 350 v drive hitting 70mph?

    I mean I will have to take a ride in it, but....
    That would be a reasonable price for the V drive if everything was solid. This means no delamination, stringers are solid and not getting soft, No mechanical issues with the parts that are on it. For the $5500 difference you can do a lot of work on the V drive and make it go even quicker. But to be a safe 90+ boat it will need completely rerigged which would make that $5500 go away very quickly. The vdrive is way back, which means it probably has a steep shaft angle. This means geat ski boat, lake toy; definately not a 100MPH setup. Don't know what type hull you are looking at on the jet. If it has a race motor that works, it could be a steal at that price. It could just have race stickers on it, as they haven't raced Comp Jet boats in our area in quite some time or was it a drag boat? It's hard to compare an apple to a blank slate. The V-drive is definately capable of being a fun toy and has potential for much more. The jet has advantages on the river as well. Of course in the V-drive section we're more partial to the V-drive.
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