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    Wussup guys,
    I'm pretty new to jets, and the delta and have a bit of a fear of wakes.

    How do I tackle the wake of a big rollbar boat?

    What are the dangers?

    I usually jump 'em but I got nice air off one an my motor unloaded a bit.
    The last one ended up spraying water over the deck is that normal?

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    The wakes off a roolbar boat are nothin gas and go. The cruser wakes are the scary ones...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAVEO View Post
    The wakes off a roolbar boat are nothin gas and go. The cruser wakes are the scary ones...
    No there not, just give it more gas and go farther...
    What happens on the Delta stays on the Delta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltarat View Post
    No there not, just give it more gas and go farther...
    LOL True...not just farther but higher also.
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    yea who cares about 7 ft wakes from 50 ft cruisers at full speed. The Howard just flies right over them at 70 MPH. Then I fix my gas pedal and seat($207.92)



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    What works really well for me is to cross them as far away from the boat generating the wake as possible (wakes far away from the boat have had time to dissipate unlike the wake that's coming directly off of the boat). If it's a large wake, you'll wanna slow down and use the diverter to get the nose of the boat above the crest of the wake.

    As soon as you get the boat on top of the wake, punch the throttle and the boat will basically launch over the wake.
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    I submarined my jet boat going down a small slough trying to jump a wake of a cruiser going the same direction as me. I got wet and ankle deep in water. It was cool! As far as the roll bar boats go you really have nothing to worry about. Just get on the Delta and charge it. If you sit there and worry about all the variables that could arrise you wont have any fun. Just keep your eyes and ears open and you'll be fine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetaholic View Post
    What works really well for me is to cross them as far away from the boat generating the wake as possible (wakes far away from the boat have had time to dissipate unlike the wake that's coming directly off of the boat). If it's a large wake, you'll wanna slow down and use the diverter to get the nose of the boat above the crest of the wake.

    As soon as you get the boat on top of the wake, punch the throttle and the boat will basically launch over the wake.
    Get right on the ass end of the cruiser and turn right into the crest of the wake and pray you clear the second... look at my avitar, thats how it's done. have fun and enjoy the delta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetaholic View Post
    What works really well for me is to cross them as far away from the boat generating the wake as possible (wakes far away from the boat have had time to dissipate unlike the wake that's coming directly off of the boat). If it's a large wake, you'll wanna slow down and use the diverter to get the nose of the boat above the crest of the wake.

    As soon as you get the boat on top of the wake, punch the throttle and the boat will basically launch over the wake.
    Jon

    While I understand your thought the theory sucks. Get as close to the back of the boat as you can, when you can read the type of beer they are drinking you are just about there…
    Fully commit to the ride and turn square to the rollers (the wakes will be in sets of three and spaced very close together right where you will be at this point) punch it as you go right up the face of the first one, as soon as you crest the peek of the first roller with the rear of your boat let off the throttle. You will find that you will jump of the first one, clear the second and you should case the third as you land cushioning the impact of the jump. Works like a charm and has been very good to me for many years.
    This will work no matter which way the boat if facing (either head on at you or you over taking it from the rear). Always remember, once you have lined up you have to fully commit, there is no backing out at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltarat View Post
    Jon

    While I understand your thought the theory sucks. Get as close to the back of the boat as you can, when you can read the type of beer they are drinking you are just about there…
    Fully commit to the ride and turn square to the rollers (the wakes will be in sets of three and spaced very close together right where you will be at this point) punch it as you go right up the face of the first one, as soon as you crest the peek of the first roller with the rear of your boat let off the throttle. You will find that you will jump of the first one, clear the second and you should case the third as you land cushioning the impact of the jump. Works like a charm and has been very good to me for many years.
    This will work no matter which way the boat if facing (either head on at you or you over taking it from the rear). Always remember, once you have lined up you have to fully commit, there is no backing out at that point.
    Are you sure about that???



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltarat View Post
    Always remember, once you have lined up you have to fully commit, there is no backing out at that point.
    Which is the exact reason why I preach against this method, especially for a beginner. Little to no room for error whatsoever. But as they say, whatever "floats your boat".



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetaholic View Post
    Which is the exact reason why I preach against this method, especially for a beginner. Little to no room for error whatsoever. But as they say, whatever "floats your boat".
    So what you are really saying is that at 65 mph you would recomend spinning your boat out on purpose and that is OK? Hey what ever floats your boat though right....just keep that shit far away from my boat.

    As far as the wakes go, this isnt a lake we boat in; you dont always have a mile to avoid a wake in your little Fisher Price boat and it is very important to know how to cross them correctly which is what was asked. You can go as far back as you want and when you jump the first wake and stuff your boat in to the second I will wait to make sure that you are ok, but dont think for one minute that I am gonna give you a towel to dry off

    It is very important out here to know what you are doing and know what your options are at a seconds notice. Everyone has their perfered way to deal with wakes when they have the space to do so but this is the Delta and you dont always have options. Hell I have seen wakes that I have come off plane for and rode out at idle in a pinch. The thing is to know your options, whats behind you (which in my case is you) and what is coming from the other direction at all times while in the Delta, these will determine how I approch each wake at any given time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltarat View Post
    So what you are really saying is that at 65 mph you would recomend spinning your boat out on purpose and that is OK? Hey what ever floats your boat though right....just keep that shit far away from my boat.

    As far as the wakes go, this isnt a lake we boat in; you dont always have a mile to avoid a wake in your little Fisher Price boat and it is very important to know how to cross them correctly which is what was asked. You can go as far back as you want and when you jump the first wake and stuff your boat in to the second I will wait to make sure that you are ok, but dont think for one minute that I am gonna give you a towel to dry off

    It is very important out here to know what you are doing and know what your options are at a seconds notice. Everyone has their perfered way to deal with wakes when they have the space to do so but this is the Delta and you dont always have options. Hell I have seen wakes that I have come off plane for and rode out at idle in a pinch. The thing is to know your options, whats behind you (which in my case is you) and what is coming from the other direction at all times while in the Delta, these will determine how I approch each wake at any given time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltarat View Post
    So what you are really saying is that at 65 mph you would recomend spinning your boat out on purpose and that is OK? Hey what ever floats your boat though right....just keep that shit far away from my boat.

    As far as the wakes go, this isnt a lake we boat in; you dont always have a mile to avoid a wake in your little Fisher Price boat and it is very important to know how to cross them correctly which is what was asked. You can go as far back as you want and when you jump the first wake and stuff your boat in to the second I will wait to make sure that you are ok, but dont think for one minute that I am gonna give you a towel to dry off

    It is very important out here to know what you are doing and know what your options are at a seconds notice. Everyone has their perfered way to deal with wakes when they have the space to do so but this is the Delta and you dont always have options. Hell I have seen wakes that I have come off plane for and rode out at idle in a pinch. The thing is to know your options, whats behind you (which in my case is you) and what is coming from the other direction at all times while in the Delta, these will determine how I approch each wake at any given time.
    For the record, I don't spin out faster than 30mph. I've also been in my boat long enough to get a feel for it and know exactly what it's going to do. The spins are always controlled and not around other boats. If even for a second I sense an unsafe condition the maneuver is either aborted (if just starting to go into it) or the maneuver is cancelled altogether (if I've already determined that the situation around me is unsafe before the maneuver is carried out). Believe it or not, there is an actual thought process that goes into that maneuver. On that note, unless you realize and are OK with the huge risk you take when performing this maneuver, know your boat and know your boat like the back of your hand, have quick reflexes, can carry out the entire spin recovery procedure in your sleep, and there is absolutely zero risk to other boats and people around you beyond a shadow of a doubt, I strongly advise against pulling this maneuver off.

    That being said, I spent a couple of hours on the phone with the author of this thread, and he is very new to jet boats so he's not only just learning the theory of operation and how to drive a jet boat in general, he's also just now getting a feel for his boat specifically. IMHO, I consider Terry's method to be an advanced maneuver that even I myself am not comfortable with pulling off, let alone a beginner who's just gettin' to know his boat and jet boats in general.

    Terry, maybe sometime I'll have you drive my boat and perform your method to demonstrate to me exactly how it is to be pulled off correctly (through another boater, I learned the spin maneuver this exact same way). But for now I'm just having a hard time picturing exactly how to do it, how it would even work, and how that method could be better than how I've always been comfortable with doing it.

    In response to your comment regarding jumping the first and nosediving into the second, that's not how my method is done. You raise the nose just enough so that the nose will clear the top of the first crest. Once the boat is on the first crest, you simply punch the throttle and launch the boat over the 2nd and 3rd wakes. You're merely using the 1st wake as a "ramp" of sorts. If I'm explaining it incorrectly, I just simply don't know of any other way to explain it rather than to demonstrate it.
    Last edited by Jetaholic; 06-14-2009 at 12:23 AM.



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