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    Default Mt Island lake fees on the way!

    The plan is for fees, HP, and size limits.



    Battle and her ilk on the Marine Commission are trying to sneak through what they call their "Base Operating Plan" for Mountain Island Lake, and it is truly 'base'! It will include such things as a fee for a sticker for each motor boat (but not canoes, kayacks, etc) using the lake and a hores power, & size limit of 22 feet for most boats, 26 feet for pontoons. I oppose this as a useless tax and a useless size limit. Wakes are caused by careless operation not boat size. Anyway, we need to show up in numbers this Wednesday, May 5, at 6:00 p.m. at the CMUD office on Hwy 16 in order to speak out against this! If we do not, they are going to sneak this by under the radar on us!
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    Where is this office.I would like to come and see what is going on here.
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    If Im workin in charlotte next week, I will do my best to show up for some additional support!!! I cant promise you Ill be there, but Ill try!!To HELL with BS taxes!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Peel View Post
    Where is this office.I would like to come and see what is going on here.

    the next meeting is on Hwy 16 at the water treatment plant.

    http://www.marinecommission.com/meetings_2007.asp

    I friend from the lake told me about this [email protected]#t. I cut and pasted part of his email.

    I am going to get there early to sign up to speak about this fee. I pay for my boat registration, fuel and property taxes. It is a public lake, not a privet one just for the lake front property owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsanger View Post
    If Im workin in charlotte next week, I will do my best to show up for some additional support!!! I cant promise you Ill be there, but Ill try!!To HELL with BS taxes!!!!
    Yo man give me a call if you get some free time, I got the boat at the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Adlaide III View Post
    the next meeting is on Hwy 16 at the water treatment plant.

    http://www.marinecommission.com/meetings_2007.asp

    I friend from the lake told me about this [email protected]#t. I cut and pasted part of his email.

    I am going to get there early to sign up to speak about this fee. I pay for my boat registration, fuel and property taxes. It is a public lake, not a privet one just for the lake front property owners.
    John,
    I will give you a call wed, We Will be there..
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    Default From the horses mouth

    This is the email I was sent after I sent one to her.
    I also talk to Annette Demeny, she said it will be a very long time before this would take affect if it is voted ya.
    Also said that they sent out a letter/survey to the area and this reflects the feed back from the letter/survey. Guess we just go and see what is going on.
    I don't think this will affect us jet boaters to much?Other than paying more?
    But what else is new?

    I just read over this BS and it says over the water non-muffled exhaust pipe???
    Here we go????



    There will be a public meeting as part of the regular monthly Marine Commission meeting on Wednesday, May 5th, at the Brookshire Water Treatment Plant at 5100 Brookshire Blvd. The meeting starts at 6:30. The public hearing is not the first item on the agenda (this is subject to change). I am assuming that this is what you are inquiring about.

    The Managed Access Regulations propose limiting motorized boat size on Mountain Island Lake to 22-feet for a single hull boat (there are provisions for grandfathering) and 26-feet for pontoon boats (there are provisions for grandfathering). To cover the costs of adminstration and enforcement of this program, it is necessary to enact a permit fee.

    Passive boating such as canoes, kayaks, hydrobikes, and electric motors and internal combustion engines under ten hp, are exempt from the permit and fees. This is not a tax.

    The purpose is to keep this small lake safe for boaters, swimmers and skiers, to cut down on shoreline eroison, to diversify recreation and to preserve the environment that our survey indicates is the most important reason people like Mountain Island Lake.

    A copy of the draft Manage Access Regulations is to be posted on the Marine Commission website (www.marinecommission.com). Annette was to post them this morning with revisions the Commission made, but she might be bogged down by phone calls. Another way to receive a copy is to call Annette Demeny at 704-348-2736 or email her at [email protected].

    Please contact me again if your have other questions.

    Alice Battle
    Vice-chair, Mountain Island Lake Marine Commission
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    Default You will love this...

    Got a few Emails from a friend that lives on the same street as the Vice chair...



    Ms. Battle,
    >
    > First, thank you so much for the email updating us on your next plan
    > for proposed restrictions on Mt. Island Lake. I think everyone that
    > uses and enjoys Mt. Island Lake will agree that we are lucky to have
    > this right in our own back yard. I know I have enjoyed it for the last
    > 37 years which is well beyond the amount of years you have been trying
    > to destroy and take away other people's rights and privileges on the
    > lake. The no wake zone in Shuffletown Cove was some of your greatest
    > work to date but now you are trying to raise the bar with a ban on
    > larger boats. I know you will not rest until Mt. Island Lake is only
    > for paddle and blow boaters alike.
    > I see your argument for safety and water quality and if there is a
    > problem then we should address it. But to date I haven't heard of
    > anything. No boating accidents and no water pollution to speak of. So
    > is your battle really for everyone's well being or just a personal
    > vendetta against people that don't share the same views as you do?
    > Let's get real*there have been a huge increase in the number of homes
    > and boat slips on Mt. Island Lake. But in the past few years from my
    > personal experience there hasn't been that big of an increase of boat
    > traffic. The majority of the people that use Mt. Island Lake only have
    > 3 months a year to do so. I think everyone will agree that June, July,
    > and August is peak season. Of that peak season Saturday and Sunday are
    > the high traffic days. So basically the majority of power boaters have
    > 24 peak days a year to enjoy the lake. Are we really asking too much
    > for 12 weekends a year to enjoy the lake? Just how much erosion are you
    > going to save by reducing the amount of boats on the lake?
    > There is basic boat safety rules designed to keep us all safe. IN
    > addition there have been a few different no wake areas designated on the
    > lake to keep us all safe. I think we have plenty of regulation on Mt.
    > Island Lake and I don't intend to sit on the side lines anymore and
    > watch people like you try to take my rights away. I may not be able to
    > stop my government but I feel like if the community will unite that we
    > can stop you.
    > I urge everyone to flood every meeting possible and not to just pick
    > one. When the battle is over it's too late to start fighting. I know
    > I am guilty as I sat by and watched my cove become a no wake zone. Now
    > to teach my children to ski I have to throw them out in the middle of
    > the main channel. Real safe Ms. Battle*.REAL SAFE!
    >
    > Please everyone, keep the message going. Lets use our Social
    > Networking Sites to promote this.
    >
    > Bryan Abernathy
    > Mt. Island Lake Property Owner
    >




    Ms Battle
    I am in receipt of your regulation notification. I began visiting Mt.Island with my dad in 1959. Our family bought a lease in 1963. The current Maddox property was our sanctuary for +/_ 10 years. This property is located on Shuffletown Cove.
    In 1975 I acquired a lease in Nance Cove. Duke Power allowed the purchase of this lease upon meeting certain criteria. This was done in 1978. I have since purchased another lot in Nance Cove. So if you do the math , that is 51 years of growth on this lake There are many residents on this lake with similar histories. By the way .....Someone, they tell me, has stolen Shuffletown Cove and moved Nance Cove. I looked out my window , We are still here. I looked at my map and plot plan ,We are still on them,So unless The LORD moves this lake,We are still here. I just thought I would throw that in.
    As I said, I have, along with many others seen a huge amount of growth in the past 15 years. I can not say it is welcome or unwelcome. It is growth, the same as it was to the residents who were here before myself. I do hate to hear that the campers were run off. How could anyone think that they have the right to deny another individual the privilege of enjoying this lake that they, and many of their parents enjoyed before you or I ever saw this lake. Shame on the perpetrator of that deed. Probably, regulations were needed in this situation, but not complete removal.
    That brings us back to regulations. Here is a little Quiz for all the boaters on this Lake. I will give you the story behind it and then I will ask you.
    When I permanently moved to Mt. Island in 1978 , I bought a boat. On my first run up this Lake, I had known, just about my whole life, I began noticing buoys up along McDowell Cr.(has it moved too?) I slowed down because the water was getting shallow. ( the main channel had moved) I finally came to a stop,before I tore the prop off my new boat. Eventually an old fisherman came by and I waved him down. He was not real happy about that ,as I was this young city looking boy in a new shiny boat churning up the mud where he was trolling. I asked him, Sir; could you tell me what side of these buoys do you ride on? He looked at me sideways and said: You don't know ! I said ,No. He said : WHAT THE ==== Ya doing out here then! When I finally got out of that mess, I went to the library and got a book on nautical rules and regulations.
    Now I know, and I will ask you and your committee and anyone else who operates a vessel ,power or paddle on a N.C. waterway to correctly answer or find out before entering upon the lake again.
    Here is the quiz:
    When traveling a water way what side do you travel on?
    When passing a boat, what side do you pass?
    When approaching a boat, what side do you pass?
    What does the red and green light mean?
    What does each buoy mean, and what side do you pass if it is in mid channel?

    We have a large number of boaters on our Lake who can't pass this quiz,and that is dangerous,and I say to them what that old fisherman said to me. WHAT THE ==== ARE YOU DOING OUT HERE !
    Lets get to the issue at hand. Limited Boat access. I have heard talk about it for 20 years. Call it what it is. How many boats currently on our Lake at present time do you consider too large? I have not seen over a hand full in the 51 years I have been here. The ones that I have seen , don't hang around long. Think about it , your going to live on and ride on this lake why would you buy something too big for it ? That is why if you see a big boat , it does not hang around long.
    There are waterways on the East Coast that are not as wide as our main channel and they seem to get along just fine. If you are wanting to permit the boats, don't we do that already each time we register them? So I don't understand unless we are trying to get ride of the campers again ,and if that is the motive then think about this. Their families were here before you and I, What gives any individual or group the right to impose their will on another group without either a vote by all involved or a vote by officials elected by all involved. I personally have never seen a ballot.
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    http://www.PetitionOnline.com/050410/

    We have a petition to sign to stop this BS from happening!
    We need everyone that can to sigh this, even if you don't lake on MIL.
    If we let the lakes over ride the state laws I think Hot Boats everywhere will be at risk of getting run off the lakes..

    With that said please sign this now.
    Thanks for all the help
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