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    Default I think i have a problem !

    Well , I had bought this 454, complete, motor, was running when pulled from truck, The guy told me he pulled it out because it lost power, it had alot of miles on it and he was going to rebuild it, then he found out his wife was pregnant and he needed money so thats why he was selling it. I bought this thing about a year ago and just got around to pulling it apart, I was to busy with repairs on my house and the wife and kids to do anything. This is what i found, I only took one head off, still need to get to the other one off, scared to see whats next! shit! lost power, you think???? f$%[email protected]$%^king cant trust no one i guess? Im pretty shure it wasnt running like this, its a 1984, 454 . Hope the block is ok
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    454 v7. Lost power, that's an understatement!
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    NICE! Custom vented piston. At least it's an obvious problem. Hopefully the missing piece didn't do any other damage once it left it's purpose in this world.

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    I've got 7 standard bore pistons and rods, need ONE or two?
    Mine split the top half off, 2nd ring all the way around. '88 K30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mash on It View Post
    I've got 7 standard bore pistons and rods, need ONE or two?
    Mine split the top half off, 2nd ring all the way around. '88 K30

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    Thanks, but im going to have to see if the block is ok first, and the crank, for sure im going to have to bore it out, not sure how much yet, thats if its ok. I guess if the 454 block is cracked , or cylinders unsavable i will have to go with the 396, but i wanted to save that for a car, plus im not sure how bad the 396 is , so untill I get my piece of scrap iron to a machine shop to have it checked im not sure what im going to do yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budweiser View Post
    NICE! Custom vented piston. At least it's an obvious problem. Hopefully the missing piece didn't do any other damage once it left it's purpose in this world.
    I will give the piston a proper burial in my back yard, services will be held when i get back from work, maybe on sunday thats fitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Thanks, but im going to have to see if the block is ok first, and the crank, for sure im going to have to bore it out, not sure how much yet, thats if its ok. I guess if the 454 block is cracked , or cylinders unsavable i will have to go with the 396, but i wanted to save that for a car, plus im not sure how bad the 396 is , so untill I get my piece of scrap iron to a machine shop to have it checked im not sure what im going to do yet...
    Find a reputable diesel shop and have the block sleeved..... Those guys save those super expensive diesel blocks all the time, and know what they're doing when it comes to sleeves.... I'm not sure where you're located, but "Big Ts Freightliner" in Oxnard has done a few sleeves for me without any issues..... Even in the PS race motors..... Sleeve it and punch them all to .030/.060, and save the 396 for your other project......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneypit View Post
    Find a reputable diesel shop and have the block sleeved..... Those guys save those super expensive diesel blocks all the time, and know what they're doing when it comes to sleeves.... I'm not sure where you're located, but "Big Ts Freightliner" in Oxnard has done a few sleeves for me without any issues..... Even in the PS race motors..... Sleeve it and punch them all to .030/.060, and save the 396 for your other project......
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    Thanks for the help but i live in TEXAS, and where I live there is probly no good machine shops anymore, most of the good ones closed down, the owners retired. I have to drive to New Mexico to find one that I would trust, even then im not sure I trust themI live in West Texas, about an hour from Las Cruces New Mexico. Im not sure how bad the block is, but I do have a machine shop where I live that can vatt it, and check it for cracks, and check the cylinders, just not sure I trust them doing the machine work? hopefully its not that bad ,,but so far it does look bad!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Thanks for the help but i live in TEXAS, and where I live there is probly no good machine shops anymore, most of the good ones closed down, the owners retired. I have to drive to New Mexico to find one that I would trust, even then im not sure I trust themI live in West Texas, about an hour from Las Cruces New Mexico. Im not sure how bad the block is, but I do have a machine shop where I live that can vatt it, and check it for cracks, and check the cylinders, just not sure I trust them doing the machine work? hopefully its not that bad ,,but so far it does look bad!!!!!!
    Just to update, I took the other head off and it's fine, but I flipped the motor over and wow, metal everywhere, the connecting rod was loose as he'll, this thing spun a rod bearing, then it destroyed itself. It looks like it jumped time, the piece of shit nylon cam gear was worn the timing chain was about to fall off. The crank is screwed , there was no rod bearing at all, no where to be found just disintegrated , so I still need to have the block checked. the guy that sold it to me must have run it out of oil, or when it jumped time it went to he'll, either way it's screwed for now

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    Spinning a rod bearing and just the knock alone could knock it out of time. Not necessarily running out of oil either. Could have just been worn out or hell anything can cause a bearing to spin. It's simple mechanics. Nothing last forever. Get the block checked. I highly doubt it's cracked or bad. The piston is still in the sleeve and the rod didn't get thrown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdrive_and_jetboat06 View Post
    Spinning a rod bearing and just the knock alone could knock it out of time. Not necessarily running out of oil either. Could have just been worn out or hell anything can cause a bearing to spin. It's simple mechanics. Nothing last forever. Get the block checked. I highly doubt it's cracked or bad. The piston is still in the sleeve and the rod didn't get thrown.
    I totally agree with you, but the motor does not look like it has alot of miles on it at all, all the piston skirts look like new, no wear at all, the cylinders look new, I know that some times you can pull a motor apart that has alot of mileage and it may look like it doesnt, but this thing really looks like it had no mile on it!!, even the cam looks new, I am speculating that somebody ran it out of oil, it has that burnt oil smell, and all the main bearings are scarred, like it got really hot, no oil, but your right anything could have caused this, its just my opinion that it was low on oil for a long time, it got hot and now its dead, but who knows, the block looks ok, but have to have it checked, I m not sure if i want to get a new 454 crank, or make it a 427, I like the shorter stroke(427) so im looking for rotating assemblies now.

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