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    Can anyone tell me what rods are stuffed in this thing? Crank is Scat and I'm thinking the rods might be as well but I'm not sure
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    Might be a misunderstanding here! This is a question not a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steele211 View Post
    Might be a misunderstanding here! This is a question not a game.
    Definitely not Eagles, definitely not Scats!!

    hat leaves you with one of about 15-20 "names" most of which are the same forging and machineing. Good luck, but seriously, If its not a Eagle, Scat, Engine Pro, or Manley, it really doesn't much matter who's name they were sold under.



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    What bolts are they? Marked on the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    What bolts are they? Marked on the end.
    I was purposely staying out of it, but that was my first question.

    The shape of the big end is not familiar to me. Can we assume that they all have the letter "I" stamped in them?

    Also, what engine are they for?
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    Aside from Eagle, Scat, and Manley, don't expect to see a name on the bolt except possibly ARP's, and a bolt type, 8740, 2000 or L19. The L19 is extremely doubtfull.
    The only rods I have ever seen that made no attempt to remove weight from the big end around the shoulders like those is a set of older Manleys I have. But I doubt they are Manleys.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Aside from Eagle, Scat, and Manley, don't expect to see a name on the bolt except possibly ARP's, and a bolt type, 8740, 2000 or L19. The L19 is extremely doubtfull.
    The only rods I have ever seen that made no attempt to remove weight from the big end around the shoulders like those is a set of older Manleys I have. But I doubt they are Manleys.
    Just for fun, I sent the link over to the engine balancer I use (I have known him over 30 years). I have an idea but looking for confirmation.

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    Engine was assembled in 04 or 05 and he didn't seem to skimp on anything else I would hate to think he did here but who knows. These are what's in the alky motor in the hydro. Not sure if you can read the letters or not but here goes
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    So do those say "SPS" on them?

    Those are a Carrillo bolt, and the first photo shows the letter marking on the side that is also an indication of a Carrillo rod. The angle on the top of the bolt is a "stroker cut" for clearance.

    On top of that,, my engine balancer says that at one time Carrillo was changing the machining process inside the beam because Eagle was trying to mimic them, and you can see the three lines in this rod instead of one.

    As he also stated, it would be easier to tell in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obnoxious001 View Post
    So do those say "SPS" on them?

    Those are a Carrillo bolt, and the first photo shows the letter marking on the side that is also an indication of a Carrillo rod. The angle on the top of the bolt is a "stroker cut" for clearance.

    On top of that,, my engine balancer says that at one time Carrillo was changing the machining process inside the beam because Eagle was trying to mimic them, and you can see the three lines in this rod instead of one.

    As he also stated, it would be easier to tell in person.
    Definitely a SPS bolt. THAT IS NOT A ARP!
    They could very easily be Carrillos. When I wound two older Manelys of a odd size they no longer produced (6.635) I picked up a set of 6 Carrillos that were very very similar but a tad heavy on the small end that I was able to offset by removong from the piston. They look very much like those. Like I said in my earlier post, Manleys had not detail work to remove weight from the big end. Neither did the Carrillos I bought.
    Your right Barry, they could very possibly Carrillos.

    The one thing that tells me they might not be is the broach looking cut across the ribs on the cap, in addition to the mill spot facing for the bolts heads. I would have to double check my Manely and Carrillos when I get home. But I don't remeber them having that broach cut across the cap rib. Seems entirely unnecessary.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Definitely a SPS bolt. THAT IS NOT A ARP!
    They could very easily be Carrillos. When I wound two older Manelys of a odd size they no longer produced (6.635) I picked up a set of 6 Carrillos that were very very similar but a tad heavy on the small end that I was able to offset by removong from the piston. They look very much like those. Like I said in my earlier post, Manleys had not detail work to remove weight from the big end. Neither did the Carrillos I bought.
    Your right Barry, they could very possibly Carrillos.

    The one thing that tells me they might not be is the broach looking cut across the ribs on the cap, in addition to the mill spot facing for the bolts heads. I would have to double check my Manely and Carrillos when I get home. But I don't remeber them having that broach cut across the cap rib. Seems entirely unnecessary.
    OK,, so now you made me go look,, I have a couple of different Carrillos here,, on set SBC,, no broach cut,, but the BBC does, and it has the SPS CARR bolts that I am told are unique to Carrillo.

    My first clue was the letter stamp, don't think I have seen any Chinese rods that do that.

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