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    I already have a clue on this but would like input from others! I picked up 2 cases (back when they came 24 to a case in those old cardboard cans that required either a church key or the old spout) Arco supreme 40 and arco supreme 10-40. I am just curious as to others input on this????

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    Not sure what you're getting at here...

    What type of input are you looking for? Collector value, whether or not to use it, molecular structure vs. current stuff?..

    I heard it makes a great laxative... Wait a sec... maybe that was synthetic. Oh well, that was a loooong time ago

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    shake it up run it trough a paint strainer and see if anything gets caught if not run it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ol guy View Post
    I already have a clue on this but would like input from others! I picked up 2 cases (back when they came 24 to a case in those old cardboard cans that required either a church key or the old spout) Arco supreme 40 and arco supreme 10-40. I am just curious as to others input on this????
    Not trying to be a smart ass Ol Guy, but what do you think it might have turned into in the time?
    If its not Arco Graphite, I'd run it. If it was Arco Graphite, I say keep it as a novelty. It didn't work when the stuff was brand new and fresh.

    I guarantee you, its better than 90% of the crap on the shelf.
    Whats the API service letter designation? SG? Same designation as todays real RACING OILS like Brad Penn, Torco conventional, and some " marine specific" oils. You know, oils they can no longer sell over the counter for automotive use.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Not trying to be a smart ass Ol Guy, but what do you think it might have turned into in the time?
    If its not Arco Graphite, I'd run it. If it was Arco Graphite, I say keep it as a novelty. It didn't work when the stuff was brand new and fresh.

    I guarantee you, its better than 90% of the crap on the shelf.
    Whats the API service letter designation? SG? Same designation as todays real RACING OILS like Brad Penn, Torco conventional, and some " marine specific" oils. You know, oils they can no longer sell over the counter for automotive use.
    GN-7 I don't consider that a smart ass response at all!!! Actually the best response yet! And for what it's worth this came out before the arco graphite was even dreamed of and yes I will use it and another yes it is better than off the shelf crap you can buy today!!! API numbers are 10-40 sf and the 40 is sf-cc. Alot of people looking at this thread haven't realized that this is a high zinc concentration mix and being that it is not the old synthetic could sit in a can for another 20 years and still be a viable product! I was just checking and not trying to create another mess!!! Thank you Bob and if any others comment, great!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol guy View Post
    GN-7 I don't consider that a smart ass response at all!!! Actually the best response yet! And for what it's worth this came out before the arco graphite was even dreamed of and yes I will use it and another yes it is better than off the shelf crap you can buy today!!! API numbers are 10-40 sf and the 40 is sf-cc. Alot of people looking at this thread haven't realized that this is a high zinc concentration mix and being that it is not the old synthetic could sit in a can for another 20 years and still be a viable product! I was just checking and not trying to create another mess!!! Thank you Bob and if any others comment, great!!!
    There MIGHT be some seperation of the detergent additives, anti-acid/calcium and friction additives, but I seriously doubt it.
    Yes, that was the height of the anti wear ZDDP and Calcium era. Canned roughly between 1979 and 1988. Roller cams STARTED appearing around '85. Skid ball rockers were still in use on almost all OHV engines. SG was the last of the GREAT off the shelf oils, starting in '88 and done in '93. It was the beginning of the downfall of off the shelf oils.

    Almost all the better "marine specific" and motorcycle oils, as well as conventional racing oils are STILL labeled as SG oils or carry no API "circle insignia" at all. They may have a "meets" SG on the label, but no API insignia. Regardless, you have some of the GOOD oil when flat tappets ruled the road.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    There MIGHT be some seperation of the detergent additives, anti-acid/calcium and friction additives, but I seriously doubt it.
    Yes, that was the height of the anti wear ZDDP and Calcium era. Canned roughly between 1979 and 1988. Roller cams STARTED appearing around '85. Skid ball rockers were still in use on almost all OHV engines. SG was the last of the GREAT off the shelf oils, starting in '88 and done in '93. It was the beginning of the downfall of off the shelf oils.

    Almost all the better "marine specific" and motorcycle oils, as well as conventional racing oils are STILL labeled as SG oils or carry no API "circle insignia" at all. They may have a "meets" SG on the label, but no API insignia. Regardless, you have some of the GOOD oil when flat tappets ruled the road.
    I understand about the old circle of ratings and I also know this oil is actually older than that! It came out of the Atlantic-Richfield plant in L.A. I'm really not worried about seperation with this oil and will probably use it as a break-in oil along with an additive just for safeties sake! My main reason for using this oil is the zddp content.

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    Pretty hard for it to be older than that. To my knowledge the SF designation started in 1979 and ran until around 1988. If it was canned in 1980 it would make that oil 32 years old. You can't go back much further than that Ol Guy. The can would say Alantic Richfield



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    They said Atlantic Richfield up till BP bought them.
    I mean that the name ARCO wasn't around much before 79. It was known only as Atlantic Richfield. Like I said, the cans can't be much older than '79 because the SF designation didn't exist much before that. It was the "79 thru 88" designation.
    Be kind of like saying you have Motorcraft oil or plugs from the 60s. Pretty much impossible. Motorcraft didn't exist prior to the 70s.
    To give you an idea what was going on with the industry, the SG designation lastest less than 5 years, in 93 when they started the down hill slide. SG was the last of the truley good stuff.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    They said Atlantic Richfield up till BP bought them.
    I mean that the name ARCO wasn't around much before 79. It was known only as Atlantic Richfield. Like I said, the cans can't be much older than '79 because the SF designation didn't exist much before that. It was the "79 thru 88" designation.
    Be kind of like saying you have Motorcraft oil or plugs from the 60s. Pretty much impossible. Motorcraft didn't exist prior to the 70s.
    To give you an idea what was going on with the industry, the SG designation lastest less than 5 years, in 93 when they started the down hill slide. SG was the last of the truley good stuff.
    Now I understand what you were saying about the Atlantic Richfield logo or name plate! Thanks I think I will use for break-in and see how it holds up just for the zinc still in that age of oil.
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    So how long does oil last? I thought I was told that quarts of oil lasted about a year and if you had it in lager quantities like gallons it would last longer. Is that wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol guy View Post
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    if you want to sell a few cans let me know. I'm been trying buy a old can here and there for my dad's shop. I need to start going to the swap meet or garage sales I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipster27 View Post
    So how long does oil last? I thought I was told that quarts of oil lasted about a year and if you had it in lager quantities like gallons it would last longer. Is that wrong?
    I think it depends on the amount of paraffins in the oil ( wax ) I can't see it really ever going bad, it will just separate. Warm it up to 150* in the oven and shake the can......... just an idea


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