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    Default milodon oil pan

    A buddy of mine has a milodon v-drive oil pan that has the tray in the bottom of it should he run a windage trey on the motor also
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    He should sell it and get an Olsen,Dooley or Stef's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveo143 View Post
    He should sell it and get an Olsen,Dooley or Stef's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt wheeler View Post
    A buddy of mine has a milodon v-drive oil pan that has the tray in the bottom of it should he run a windage trey on the motor also
    No, the tray in the bottom serves the same purpose of shielding the oil from the air turbulence created by the rotating crankshaft.... While there are better pans out there, Milodon pans can be made to work just fine... The pump and the related pickup will be the deal breaker if not set up properly... And yes, I've heard the horror stories about Milodon pans, but I've also heard horror stories about other components that may, or may not, have been the real reason for failures.... IMO, the PUMP is the heart of the oil system and should garner 95% of the attention.....
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    Your buddy should start saving money for a new crank, rods, and maybe block.
    I agree with Ray... the oil pump is somewhat important. It doesn't matter how cool the pump is once the pickup breaks off and falls in the bottom of the pan, though.
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    The pan works well from what I have seen on my friends runner bottom lake boat. Now the pickup is the weak link. If you modify it to be stronger so it can't break off then it might work OK. I don't know how it would work on a big HP and speed deal. I prefer Armando's, but that is just me.

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    Here's a great pick up, pretty sure Steelcomp made it
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt wheeler View Post
    A buddy of mine has a milodon v-drive oil pan that has the tray in the bottom of it should he run a windage trey on the motor also
    No, the tray in the pan is enough. The pan isnt the best, but it's not much worse than any other box type pan. The pick ups suck and will break if you don't beef up the support at a minimum. Some like to increase the size of the pick up box as well. I've run Milodon's on several motors (including a blown alcohol deal that made over 1200 HP) and haven't had an oiling related problem. Pay attention to the details and the pan is fine. Don't pay attention and it don't matter what pan you run....
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    Quote Originally Posted by David 519 View Post
    No, the tray in the pan is enough. The pan isnt the best, but it's not much worse than any other box type pan. The pick ups suck and will break if you don't beef up the support at a minimum. Some like to increase the size of the pick up box as well. I've run Milodon's on several motors (including a blown alcohol deal that made over 1200 HP) and haven't had an oiling related problem. Pay attention to the details and the pan is fine. Don't pay attention and it don't matter what pan you run....
    In my opinion, you can beef the hell out of the pickups, but the oil pumps today SUCK!!! This a Milodon pump. Lasted one race.
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    The problem is they ALL redigned the pump to clear the bolts on the Gen 5 & 6 cap. ALL the new pumps have a reduced cross section thru the area this thing broke.
    There is ONLY ONE pump out there that adresses this problem. Milodons NEW pump. This thing is considerably stronger than ANY Mellings. Even the Mellings Select 10778.

    I don't run iron pumps any more, but if I did, this is what I would be running. See if you can tell what they did to fix the problem. ALL BBC pumps should be built like this.




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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    In my opinion, you can beef the hell out of the pickups, but the oil pumps today SUCK!!! This a Milodon pump. Lasted one race.
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    The problem is they ALL redigned the pump to clear the bolts on the Gen 5 & 6 cap. ALL the new pumps have a reduced cross section thru the area this thing broke.
    There is ONLY ONE pump out there that adresses this problem. Milodons NEW pump. This thing is considerably stronger than ANY Mellings. Even the Mellings Select 10778.

    I don't run iron pumps any more, but if I did, this is what I would be running. See if you can tell what they did to fix the problem. ALL BBC pumps should be built like this.
    Is that number on it the part #? 18760?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronboats View Post
    Is that number on it the part #? 18760?
    Yes. Funny, not the best pan in the world, far from the best pickup, but hands down the strongest IRON oil pump on the market right now. It is the ONLY IRON pump I know of that actually addresses the probem that stemmed fron the trimming of the body cross section to allow them to be used on GEN engines.

    Compare the area between the mounting base and the drive shaft on these two pumps. One is the "OLD" M77, and the other is a NEW M77. It may not look like a big deal, but I assure you, it weakened the hell out of the pump! Milodon is the ONLY company that has done anything to remedy the weakness of the new design. Any pre '91 BBC pump is stronger than a current Mellings. I had to break 2 pumps, plus see a couple others of competitors to realize there is a problem and what the cause was. Once I figured it out, I went to Mellings and Moroso aluminum billets. No beakage, no piickup. But if you run flywheel forward you have no choice, so you might as well buy the strongest iron pump you can find.

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    Don't forget that Milodon also makes an oil pump support..

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    Quote Originally Posted by obnoxious001 View Post
    Don't forget that Milodon also makes an oil pump support..

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    Its a band aid at best. better than a sharp stick in the eye, but a better stronger pump is the right answer. If I was still running an iron pump, I'd run both the Milodon pump and the support.



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    I believe, the question asked was, can you use the stock Chevy windage tray in conjunction with the Milodon tray that is attached to the pan?
    The answer is,....if there is physically room,and the longer stand-off bolts don't hit anything yes, you could, however, nothing will be gained. Two layers of windage trays are not necessary. If your Milodon pan has a windage tray attached to it, run it, it will function as is. I don't think the question was about pumps or pick-ups, or manufacturer preferences.
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