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    I hace a forged BBC crank marked with CPP on one of the counterweights. Anyone know who makes it? I originally thought Callies, but I've since seen their cranks marked "Callies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by racinjason65 View Post
    I hace a forged BBC crank marked with CPP on one of the counterweights. Anyone know who makes it? I originally thought Callies, but I've since seen their cranks marked "Callies"
    Does the front weight have a serial number and then under it have what looks like a stroke dimension? If it does then it is a Callies. There is also a parts maker in Japan that makes cranks and goes by CPP. Any casting numbers or anything else on the crank?

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    Could it be a China junk piece that someone had made and their name on it?
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/auto-par...rodu-m8caa.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    Could it be a China junk piece that someone had made and their name on it?
    Ripoff Report | CPP, Classic Performance Products | Complaint Review: 411838
    Its definitely not from Classic Performance Parts. They are into mostly chassis, brake parts, restoration stuff. I have bought quite abit from CPP. They been around for a long time.

    I am amazed nobody knows what company this is!

    If it had PC, or PCP, or PCPP 100 people would be all over this. This company is a very thin line better than the infamous counterfeiter from down under.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    Does the front weight have a serial number and then under it have what looks like a stroke dimension? If it does then it is a Callies. There is also a parts maker in Japan that makes cranks and goes by CPP. Any casting numbers or anything else on the crank?

    Yes, it has a serial number on the front weight and it's a 4.250 stroke. Has Callies marked their cranks "CPP" ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by racinjason65 View Post
    Yes, it has a serial number on the front weight and it's a 4.250 stroke. Has Callies marked their cranks "CPP" ever?

    NO! NO ! NO! NEVER EVER!


    gees, this is frightening. Maybe I should go into the business of selling crap at the swap meet as top drawer stuff because their is no shortage of people that will believe almost ANYTHING!

    Its a POS, well beyond worthless junk, C.A.T. Performance Products crank shaft!

    Its the perfect oversized paper wieght



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post

    NO! NO ! NO! NEVER EVER!


    gees, this is frightening. Maybe I should go into the business of selling crap at the swap meet as top drawer stuff because their is no shortage of people that will believe almost ANYTHING!

    Its a POS, well beyond worthless junk, C.A.T. Performance Products crank shaft!

    Its the perfect oversized paper wieght
    Hey GN, You don't have to sugar coat it, we are all friends here you can speak freely.
    Half the people in the world are below average.

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    We successfully ran a CAT crank in a dirt track engine. It was an oddball combination dictated by a set of standard CH 400 pistons with 5.7" rods that needed a 3.562" stroke. 386 cu in ran quite a bunch of races at 7000 rpm or so.

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    Just as a heads up. C.A.T. is out of the crankshaft business, and almost out of the connecting rod business, and hopefully almost out of business altogether. Their entire business now consists mostly of small parts. They are still doing business in the import replacement parts end, industrial engine parts for things like fork lifts and small diesel engine parts. Good ridence.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Just as a heads up. C.A.T. is out of the crankshaft business, and almost out of the connecting rod business, and hopefully almost out of business altogether. Their entire business now consists mostly of small parts. They are still doing business in the import replacement parts end, industrial engine parts for things like fork lifts and small diesel engine parts. Good ridence.
    I spotted a ton of their stuff on Ebay some time ago, like you say, mostly small parts, heavily discounted. I had always heard their rods were not good, and I didn't get up the nerve to risk buying any of the stuff on Ebay figuring it was going to be good stuff either. I could just imagine a $9 bronze distributor gear destroying an engine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by schick View Post
    Hey GN, You don't have to sugar coat it, we are all friends here you can speak freely.
    Callies doesn't stamp CPP, or Callies, or anything else in the front counterweight because, .......well quite frankly they don't need to, and its too easy to counterfeit. This makes the job a little bit tougher to copy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    ies doesn't stamp CPP, or Callies, or anything else in the front counterweightCall because, .......well quite frankly they don't need to, and its too easy to counterfeit. This makes the job a little bit tougher to copy.

    Dearest Uncle Bob. I know you know your chit and I hate to say otherwise BUTT Callies FAQ - Answers to your frequently asked questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    Dearest Uncle Bob. I know you know your chit and I hate to say otherwise BUTT Callies FAQ - Answers to your frequently asked questions
    serial numbers and stroke are NOT "CPP" or "Callies"

    NOW! What did the OP ask?????



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    Nice side step Uncle Bob. You know I love you so don't hollar at me.

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