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    Default OIL FILTERS Here we go again.

    Doing a little reaserch today for industrial sized water/gycol filters, and one of the sites I hit was Luber-finer. One of the oldest oil filter manufactures in the country, if not the world. And what do I see in the far upper right corner of the page, where you enter site searchs? FRAM. WTF?? Then it hits me, Luber-finer was owned by Champion Labs, who make Mobil 1 filters, K&N, Royal Purple, AC Delco, Mopar, etc filters. By far the largest contracted filter manufacture in the country, if not the world.
    AND SURE ENOUGH, FRAM DIVISION OF ALLIED SIGNAL NOW OWNS CHAMPION LABS, PARENT OF LUBER-FINER.

    Great, now the company responsible for arguably the worst filter on the market has its hands on the company responsible for making some of the best filters available.

    Hopefully they will allow Champion to continue manufacturing a quality filter under contracts. Champion makes a pretty dismal filter for the oil changing stations and as well as retail. They are sold retail as Delco, STP, Supertech, and the later Bosch filters. They are pretty easy to spot when you look at one. Hopefully Fram understands the need to continue making quality filters over pure crap. I had noticed that the lower line Ecore filters were looking more and more like a Fram with paper end caps and a plastic core tube.

    Wonder if they will start making Fram Racing filters at Champion? Doubt it.


    So that clumps the Baldwin and its contracts, Hastings and Purolator under the Clarcor Corp
    and Champion Luber-finer and their contracted filters along with Fram under Allied Signal


    Going to be keeping an eye on the K&Ns when I cut them open!!!!!

    LINK: Champion Labs



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    What about WIX ?? did they get leg humped too ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopher711 View Post
    What about WIX ?? did they get leg humped too ??
    Nope, still part of Dana. Still one of the best filters out there.



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    Well thats good news ! Always ran WIX
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    Interesting, I use some luber-finer on the fishing boat. GN, what do you think of Baldwin...by far the most common and easy to get up north.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poncho View Post
    Interesting, I use some luber-finer on the fishing boat. GN, what do you think of Baldwin...by far the most common and easy to get up north.
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    Luber-finer is a commercial line of the Champion Labs/Luber-finer team. Champion mainly manufactures filters under contract for companies like K&N, Royal Purple, Mobil, etc. Both very good filters, and very cheap retail filters.
    Luber-finers commercial slant is what led be to be on their site looking for a commercial filter when I saw the Fram logo in the upper right of the scree.
    Back in Oct 2011 Sleeper CP on the boards here spend a small family fortune cutting open every filter worth opening, and at least one that wasn't worth the box it came in, and he exposed it for the POS it is.

    Sleepers personal choice after the excercise was the Baldwins.


    If you read the whole thread you will learn a ton about oil filters, or at least the ones you should be running, and ones to avoid.

    Each filter has its following for different reasons, but in the end, any of these are very good filters depending on what your needs and requirements for a filter are. Really, there is only one VERY MISLEADING FILTER you need to avoid, and avoid the el cheapo bargin filters and you be pretty much OK.
    In no particular order.

    Wix/NAPA*
    Baldwin
    K&N
    Royal Purple
    Mobil 1
    Purolator Pure One


    * If you aren't racing, avoid the WIX and NAPA racing f ilters. They are very good filters and very strong and well built, but they have a very large micron rating that is not well suited for recreational use.

    LINK: Sleeper CP's oil filter thread



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Luber-finer is a commercial line of the Champion Labs/Luber-finer team. Champion mainly manufactures filters under contract for companies like K&N, Royal Purple, Mobil, etc. Both very good filters, and very cheap retail filters.
    Luber-finers commercial slant is what led be to be on their site looking for a commercial filter when I saw the Fram logo in the upper right of the scree.
    Back in Oct 2011 Sleeper CP on the boards here spend a small family fortune cutting open every filter worth opening, and at least one that wasn't worth the box it came in, and he exposed it for the POS it is.

    Sleepers personal choice after the excercise was the Baldwins.


    If you read the whole thread you will learn a ton about oil filters, or at least the ones you should be running, and ones to avoid.

    Each filter has its following for different reasons, but in the end, any of these are very good filters depending on what your needs and requirements for a filter are. Really, there is only one VERY MISLEADING FILTER you need to avoid, and avoid the el cheapo bargin filters and you be pretty much OK.
    In no particular order.

    Wix/NAPA*
    Baldwin
    K&N
    Royal Purple
    Mobil 1
    Purolator Pure One


    * If you aren't racing, avoid the WIX and NAPA racing f ilters. They are very good filters and very strong and well built, but they have a very large micron rating that is not well suited for recreational use.

    LINK: Sleeper CP's oil filter thread
    Are the bigger "nascar" sized Frams made to the same standards as the passenger car filters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    Are the bigger "nascar" sized Frams made to the same standards as the passenger car filters?
    I have never cut open an HP 6 Fram. I think I still have one that will never use. I should open it. I know more than a few teams use the Wix Racing with the 1 1/2 inlet. Wix also sells the same racing media cartridge used for inline applications that flow like the monster sized canister.



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    Define "racing filter"?

    Reason I ask and unless I missed it > I visited the K&N website and didn't see anything labeled "racing" however, the bottom "*inline filter" description states it's ... "*perfect for automotive racing applications"

    K&N Pro Series Premium Oil Filters
    Automotive Cartridge Oil Filters
    K&N Washable / Reusable Billet Oil Filters
    *K&N Inline Fuel/Oil Filters..."*perfect for automotive racing applications"


    I've been using the K&N HP-2002 on my Mark4 block..."racing"?
    Prior to the above I always used...Purolator L20049
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Nope, still part of Dana. Still one of the best filters out there.
    NAPA filters are Wix BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerDown View Post
    Define "racing filter"?

    Reason I ask and unless I missed it > I visited the K&N website and didn't see anything labeled "racing" however, the bottom "*inline filter" description states it's ... "*perfect for automotive racing applications"

    K&N Pro Series Premium Oil Filters
    Automotive Cartridge Oil Filters
    K&N Washable / Reusable Billet Oil Filters
    *K&N Inline Fuel/Oil Filters..."*perfect for automotive racing applications"


    I've been using the K&N HP-2002 on my Mark4 block..."racing"?
    Prior to the above I always used...Purolator L20049
    Depends on whos making the filter.

    Fram HP, same media as their standard filters with a stronger can and end plate. Still a pile of shit in side. Also has an internal btpass that their standard Chevy filter does not.

    K&N, stonger can and end plate wiht a solid perf core tube and synthetic media. Excellent flow VS filtering ratio.

    Baldwin, stronger can and end plate, excellent media with good flow and filtering, also has an internal bypass that thier standard Chevy filters so not.

    WiX/NAPA, probably the only filter that is a true racing filter. Stronger can and end plate, available with 2 media types, synthetic or cellulose fiber, also has a internal bypass that their standard Dhevy filter does not.
    HAS A 61 MICRON RATING compared to the others 10-20, and flows 28 GPM compared to the others 12-19 GPM
    I wouldn't recommend a Wix racing for anything except a true race engine.

    The aluminum qashable is a SS screen filter. Similar to the Systems 1. It is probably the best SS screen filter on the market, and made by Pure Power. I still don't care for them, but it is probablty the best of the type.

    The inlines are usually used in dry sump systems out of the pan to the tank and from the tank to the pump, but a normal canister type filter is still usually used from the pump to the engine.

    The K&N Pro( black filter) is made for garages and oil change stations. The newer Bosch filters are this same filter. Its a pile of shit and stay away from it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by slowboy View Post
    What are your thoughts on Fleetguard?
    Never seen the inside of one but I know they are very well respected in the heavy equipment and big rig community along with Donaldson.
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