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    Hi, I havnt been on here in a while, to much other stuff, im finally getting back to the boat, I dont want to start an oil pan war but I was wondering what would be a better oil pan, canton 8qt or armandos 10qt pan ? the price for the canton is $352.95 and armandos is $439.00 with pick up. I hear both are good but not sure which to go with, I currently have the milodon v-drive pan, it has never been out of the box its new, iv had it for about 8 years now, i was going to order the pick up for it and I kept reading so much bad stuff Im thinking of not using it at all, or just bracing the pick up better im not sure yet, thanks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    Hi, I havnt been on here in a while, to much other stuff, im finally getting back to the boat, I dont want to start an oil pan war but I was wondering what would be a better oil pan, canton 8qt or armandos 10qt pan ? the price for the canton is $352.95 and armandos is $439.00 with pick up. I hear both are good but not sure which to go with, I currently have the milodon v-drive pan, it has never been out of the box its new, iv had it for about 8 years now, i was going to order the pick up for it and I kept reading so much bad stuff Im thinking of not using it at all, or just bracing the pick up better im not sure yet, thanks..
    You decide to sell the Milodon let me know Ive never had a problem....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdsheppie View Post
    You decide to sell the Milodon let me know Ive never had a problem....
    will do, I just keep hearing alot of bad stuff, but then again the boat ran a car oil pan for years, so what the hell i just didnt want to put everything together and then have oil psi drop or whatever and have to pull the motor out , im getting old or maybe just lazy so I dont want extra work.....but then again if it can go wrong it probly will in my case

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    the biggest issue with the Milodon pan is not so much the pan as the pickup. If you want to buy something from Canton, buy their pickup and put it in the Milodon pan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    the biggest issue with the Milodon pan is not so much the pan as the pickup. If you want to buy something from Canton, buy their pickup and put it in the Milodon pan.
    Or you can rebuild the Milodon pick-up so it doesn't take a dip in the pan so the pump can suck air and cost you a bottom end or more! Not as bad on the jet boat pans but the V-Drive pan with the long pick-up and lack of support and suction area create a bit of problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    the biggest issue with the Milodon pan is not so much the pan as the pickup. If you want to buy something from Canton, buy their pickup and put it in the Milodon pan.
    I have heard that the pick up was bad, but apparently they have a new pick up i guess, the old pick up part number was 18475, now they have a heavy duty one (supposedly) the part number is 18476, does anybody have any experience with this? or have seen this new pick up? I tried looking up a pic and could not find one, sumitt has them for like $96.00 ! holy shit thats expensive! I have the milodon pan and high volume pump and shaft so I think I will look into this new pick up or brace the original one, which I do not have yet, so what I have is the pan,pump, and shaft but no pick up yet.,I had bought all this years ago, this is not a recent purchase, I just havnt used them...

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    Its not new, its been atound for awhile. The only difference is some gussets to make it stronger and its still a POS, and it will still break. But the real problem with the Milodon piskup is the flow, specially if the motor has loose clearances and heavier oil.
    Truthfully, I am not all that impressed with the strength of any of them, but some are better than others.
    If you can weld you can fix the problem that most of them suffer from. But if you use a Milodon, you would probably be better off starting from scratch. Not worth the effort IMO
    Almost anybody elses is a better starting point..

    This will give you an idea of what a decent v drive pickup should look ike when you are done.
    Notice the pickup box is screened. The MIlodon uses a perf plate. The perf plate works, but not at the size the Milodon pickup box is.

    LINK V drive oil pan pickup



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Its not new, its been atound for awhile. The only difference is some gussets to make it stronger and its still a POS, and it will still break. But the real problem with the Milodon piskup is the flow, specially if the motor has loose clearances and heavier oil.
    Truthfully, I am not all that impressed with the strength of any of them, but some are better than others.
    If you can weld you can fix the problem that most of them suffer from. But if you use a Milodon, you would probably be better off starting from scratch. Not worth the effort IMO
    Almost anybody elses is a better starting point..

    This will give you an idea of what a decent v drive pickup should look ike when you are done.
    Notice the pickup box is screened. The MIlodon uses a perf plate. The perf plate works, but not at the size the Milodon pickup box is.

    LINK V drive oil pan pickup
    thanks for the pictures and info, I came across a heavy duty pick up that is recommended for the milodon v-drive pan at a hot rod shop that is closing here, apparently someone ordered it and never picke it up, what luck, or not but anyway I bought it, I thought at least i would have a starting point. I will post pics of it, and I have to say it seems pretty stout , I cant imagine it breaking under normal use, (not racing) my boat is just a family ski boat, but then again you guys have way more experience than me, but here are some pics for those that have not seen the heavy duty pick up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    thanks for the pictures and info, I came across a heavy duty pick up that is recommended for the milodon v-drive pan at a hot rod shop that is closing here, apparently someone ordered it and never picke it up, what luck, or not but anyway I bought it, I thought at least i would have a starting point. I will post pics of it, and I have to say it seems pretty stout , I cant imagine it breaking under normal use, (not racing) my boat is just a family ski boat, but then again you guys have way more experience than me, but here are some pics for those that have not seen the heavy duty pick up...
    also they have it listed as a pick up tube for monster trucks although it is also listed for the v-drive oil pan...

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    Its a hell of lot better than their standard pickup.
    You might consider adding a another mount strap closer to the pump in addition to the one they put near the pickup box



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