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    I got my engine running tonite 455 olds stock crank rods forged pistons pro comp alum heads 10 1/2 -1 comp .520/.540 lift 235/245 @.050 crosswind intake roller rockers and timing was at around 18 locked out well anyway i was running it on a hose outside the boat tonite to break in the cam i was using te same hoses i use in the boat with the spicket going full blast it just really seemed like it was running kinda warm the water coming out the the hose however was only like 130/140 but the engine itself seemed im not gonna say really hot but deff pretty warm compared to what i renember it running temp wise on the hose anyone ever delt with this before its been 2 1/2 years since i have had this thing togeather so maybe im just overly concerned

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    Did you try turning the hose down? Water may be just going in and right back out and not doing any real cooling.

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    With the timing locked out at 18* I am not surprised. You're burning more fuel in the exhaust than you are in the cylinder.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jdekruyf View Post
    Did you try turning the hose down? Water may be just going in and right back out and not doing any real cooling.
    Very good call!! Water needs a chance to absorb heat and cool the engine rather than race thru! And for what its worth why would you lock a distributor at 18 total?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdekruyf View Post
    Did you try turning the hose down? Water may be just going in and right back out and not doing any real cooling.
    Quote Originally Posted by ol guy View Post
    Very good call!! Water needs a chance to absorb heat and cool the engine rather than race thru! And for what its worth why would you lock a distributor at 18 total?
    Not that I spent 35 years of my life dealing with thermal exchange and water flows, but you both should spend a minute of your lives on the phone with founder of Stewart Components(the largest supplier of water pumps to Nascar teams) about water flow thru an engine.

    It is IMPOSSIBLE to flow so much water thru an engine so fast it will over heat. It simply cannot be done. Its the oldest wives tale in automotive history.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Not that I spent 35 years of my life dealing with thermal exchange and water flows, but you both should spend a minute of your lives on the phone with founder of Stewart Components(the largest supplier of water pumps to Nascar teams) about water flow thru an engine.

    It is IMPOSSIBLE to flow so much water thru an engine so fast it will over heat. It simply cannot be done. Its the oldest wives tale in automotive history.
    Thats RICH!, Flow so much water that it overheats.
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    I started with the timing at locked out 32 but backed it down because i thought it was causing the heat issue i will bring it back up fr te second round of camshaft break in tonite i just still have thought about it and cant come up with any other reason it could be running warm other than insufficent water flow even a blown head gasket wouldnt make it run hot with xonstant fresh water cooling and it obviously doen not have a restriction because the flow of water coming out of te engine is no less that when the hose is just laying there running

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    Pretty hard to overheat an engine with tap water of its flowing while sitting on a trailer. You just can't produce that much heat when its not under load.

    BTW, there is no such thing as a "second round" of cam break in.



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    Yeah im just maybe thinking the headers were heat soaking everything making me think it was too hot cause i didnt run water through them

    Howards cam card said to do two rounds of 2500 for 15min each letting it cool conpletly down in between idk i never heard of it before either but im gonna do what the cam card says

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    Quote Originally Posted by glastornjet73 View Post
    Yeah im just maybe thinking the headers were heat soaking everything making me think it was too hot cause i didnt run water through them

    Howards cam card said to do two rounds of 2500 for 15min each letting it cool conpletly down in between idk i never heard of it before either but im gonna do what the cam card says
    I.m guessing they tell you to get in there and check things like lash between "rounds"



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    Didnt say anything about checking the valve adjustment but its hydrolic soi dont see it changing enough to make a diffrence i meen i guess it really wasent all that hot what kinda temp does a 10.5/1 engine usually get to running on a hose without a neovane style pump setup?

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    First, if it was too hot, you'd see steam and alot of it. If you could put you hand in the water leaving for even a second or 2, it wasn't anywhere near hot. Above 140 will scold the hell out of you.



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    Gotcha so it sounds like it was about rite then i just remember before with the lower compression aving to slow the garden hose water down to get temp in it but i also know there is a BIG diffrence between 8.5/1 and 10.5/1 conpression

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Not that I spent 35 years of my life dealing with thermal exchange and water flows, but you both should spend a minute of your lives on the phone with founder of Stewart Components(the largest supplier of water pumps to Nascar teams) about water flow thru an engine.

    It is IMPOSSIBLE to flow so much water thru an engine so fast it will over heat. It simply cannot be done. Its the oldest wives tale in automotive history.
    But can water flow so fast through a radiator that it doesn't have time to cool down?


    As for timing, locked @ 18* and 2500 ought to get the exhaust nice and toasty....
    Mine is around 10.0-1..k heads and minimal dish pistons..Made best hp @ 42* usually ran it @40....Had timing stall issues with it locked, i ended up with about 10* in the dizzy all in anything faster than cranking speed. Ran on 89 with a little 91 just to be safe with it....Had a little bigger than stock cam..Valvo racing oil or walmart oil and a bottle of GM EOS....about 120 hrs on the motor and the cam looks fine.
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