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    I hear some use silicone & no gasket. Do you use the end rubbers & silicone the rails or use it all the way around. The pan & pick up I had made was set up for no gasket. I also had a port added to adjust the oil pump that won't allow a socket to fit with the gasket in place. I'd rather not silicone the ends (big gap). Can the stock end seals be used & just silicone the rails with out pinching out the end seals ? I know I'll have to cut the "wing's off the seals" Even if the pick up tube clearance would work with a gasket the holes in the pan are not the same as the gasket (dart block so it has the extra holes centered with the main caps)... So it looks like I'll have to smear some silicone. Just don't want to find out it leaks just before our first race. Hope this makes sense been drunkin a lil. I figured I'd just better stop and drink about it awhile before I F it up... Thank's Craig
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    Quote Originally Posted by piston in the wind View Post
    I hear some use silicone & no gasket. Do you use the end rubbers & silicone the rails or use it all the way around. The pan & pick up I had made was set up for no gasket. I also had a port added to adjust the oil pump that won't allow a socket to fit with the gasket in place. I'd rather not silicone the ends (big gap). Can the stock end seals be used & just silicone the rails with out pinching out the end seals ? I know I'll have to cut the "wing's off the seals" Even if the pick up tube clearance would work with a gasket the holes in the pan are not the same as the gasket (dart block so it has the extra holes centered with the main caps)... So it looks like I'll have to smear some silicone. Just don't want to find out it leaks just before our first race. Hope this makes sense been drunkin a lil. I figured I'd just better stop and drink about it awhile before I F it up... Thank's Craig
    there were a couple engines in the EM that didn't even have bolts on the left side other than the front and rear at the end seals. I have seen a couple engines that Duttweiler built that had only silicone and the end seals. He would weld a 1/4" nut to the pan's rail on the end, on each side. When he went to remove the pan, he would run a razor knive thru the silicone as he turned the bolts threaded he into the nuts, and it would peel the pan off the block. NO STUDS!
    He would put down the bead and install the pan immediately, but only tighten it to the point he wanted the silicone thickness, which was very thick, and let it sit. Then cinch the pan like a 1/4 turn after the silicone set up.

    I can't imagine a pan that will not let you use a gasket like the Milodon fiber gasket. The thing is about 1/16 thick and just about indestructable. Punching holes were you need them is one of the easier things you will have done in your life.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    there were a couple engines in the EM that didn't even have bolts on the left side other than the front and rear at the end seals. I have seen a couple engines that Duttweiler built that had only silicone and the end seals. He would weld a 1/4" nut to the pan's rail on the end, on each side. When he went to remove the pan, he would run a razor knive thru the silicone as he turned the bolts threaded he into the nuts, and it would peel the pan off the block. NO STUDS!
    He would put down the bead and install the pan immediately, but only tighten it to the point he wanted the silicone thickness, which was very thick, and let it sit. Then cinch the pan like a 1/4 turn after the silicone set up.

    I can't imagine a pan that will not let you use a gasket like the Milodon fiber gasket. The thing is about 1/16 thick and just about indestructable. Punching holes were you need them is one of the easier things you will have done in your life.
    Thanks Bob good info !! I could make a gasket if need be but I wanted to keep the pick up tube .250 off the pan. At least that's the plan. Thank's again Craig
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