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    Let me first say that I am not a big fan of the design with the cartridge style stainless element. But since it always seems to be a debate here I figure I would post some real world experience with this filter and not theories and opinions. I just bought the boat and decided to stand on it a little harder. It ran awesome, turn key.
    When I finally tore the engine down the stainless element was so gummed up we could not believe oil even flowed through it. My dad has had a shop for 25 years and he was floored. It is probably still usable after we cleaned it.
    Anyway here is what we took it out of:

    12 years old!
    1100 hp quad rotor
    257 hours on the motor
    Original bearings from the original build.

    I was looking for a filter to install on the System One remote when my old man goes "WHY?! Whats wrong with those bearings? Looks like the thing did its job". And he's right. The bearings are a pass in my book.
    Most people, if the have 1000+ HP in their canoe, rarely go 12 years and 250+ hours. Bearings tell a great story. So I guess they do work regardless of the micron rating.
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    those look great. I wonder if it's a 30 Micron screen?

    Only once did my bearings ever look bad with a System 1. I think there was just some excessive "trash" in the oiling system after a rebuild. Most times my bearings looked very good.

    250 hrs in 12 years? ....... did 90 hrs in just one summer once. Those were the days .......

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    I think a lot of this depends on many variables like environment, tune up, ring seal and how often you change the oil. 250 hours isn't a lot of run time whether it's in 12 yrs or 12 weeks. Just saying...your bearings look awesome after that much time, regardless. Testament to a good build overall and good maintenance.
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    I do not understand the correlation between the bearing condition and an engine's oil filter. Obviously I realize if it were to be a useless filter that did not do it's job there would be bad bearings. But how can this engine's good bearing condition be attributed solely to that filter?? Seems like a great amount of variables could be praised and/or blamed in this sort of scenario. Congrats on the endurance of the motor though. Maybe it is the "secret weapon".

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    I agree that the variables are Endless. My reason for the post was more that I was surprised in the condition of the bearings (and the rest of the components) when I saw what the filter screen had trapped. Which doesn't include what it didn't, and the amount of debris in the filter was astonishing. That's one nice thing with the cartridge, unless you cut your filters apart, you can see exactly what was in your oil. Thought I would share, That's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    I think a lot of this depends on many variables like environment, tune up, ring seal and how often you change the oil. 250 hours isn't a lot of run time whether it's in 12 yrs or 12 weeks. Just saying...your bearings look awesome after that much time, regardless. Testament to a good build overall and good maintenance.
    Lets face it, Flatheads and even 1955 265" small blocks didn't even have oil filters at all and they went a hell of alot more than 250 hrs.
    I agree, the bearings look great, but I attribute it to alot more than the filter. Seen some ugly bearings from engines with 10 micron filters, and seen great ones come out of engines that ran only had 60 micron filters.

    Maybe the fact that the filter was damn near clogged played a role. Don't laugh. K&N air filters work the best when they have dirt on them.

    Smart guy on here once said, "you can filter your oil, or you can screen you oil, its your choice"



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Lets face it,


    Smart guy on here once said, "you can filter your oil, or you can screen you oil, its your choice"
    Warp Speed ( Jay ) was right but I'd rather screen with a 30 Micron System 1 than filter with a 61 micron Wix Racing filter. but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
    Warp Speed ( Jay ) was right but I'd rather screen with a 30 Micron System 1 than filter with a 61 micron Wix Racing filter. but that's just me.
    It isn't a probelm when you change you oil every 500 miles or 2.5 hours, which ever comes first and the total amount of carbon made in that time wouldn't fill a thimble.

    I wonder how many people run that filter and have no clue?

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    Are all the Wix racing filters 60+ ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66nogo View Post
    Are all the Wix racing filters 60+ ?
    Yep! Same media used in all their racing filters. They also all have an internal bypass, including the Chevy filter. Which is another thing I bet the majority buying them are unaware of.



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    250 hrs/ 12 years is only about 20 hrs per yr.... not alot agreed, but did the OP say the engine got torn down because it failed after that amount of time? or just to take a look inside???? I think the latter and probably could have run another 250 no problem in the next year....

    I guess it probably goes without saying that OIL is ENGINE BLOOD.... you take care of it and it will take care of you.... yes?
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    I think if you really want to know how well one of those filters works, use it on a daily driver and run it for 150,000 miles compared to something like a Amsoil EO or Royal Purple's filter. I don't think you would be all that impressed.



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