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    Default ARP Header studs ??

    What's the trick to get these things to stay tight ?? Is it ok to use loc tight ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNYoungblood View Post
    What's the trick to get these things to stay tight ?? Is it ok to use loc tight ??
    It doesn't help.

    Has alot to do with the gasket you use. With the right gasket, and tightening them AFTER they cool off a couple times and they stay pretty good.

    Best thing I have ever found
    NORD-LOCK Lock Washer, Stl, Fits 3/8 In, 0.1 Th, Pk200 - Lock Washers - 5RUY8|10.3-1081 - Grainger Industrial Supply



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    Quote Originally Posted by TNYoungblood View Post
    What's the trick to get these things to stay tight ?? Is it ok to use loc tight ??
    don't use a gasket, I use black Hi temp silicone put a bead around the ports on header let it set for like 10 min then a thin layer on heads. Kinda glue it together I use ARP header bolts with lock washers. Problem free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS&B1 View Post
    don't use a gasket, I use black Hi temp silicone put a bead around the ports on header let it set for like 10 min then a thin layer on heads. Kinda glue it together I use ARP header bolts with lock washers. Problem free!
    Yeah the gasket is the real cuplrpit on headers. If your headers will seal with just silicone it is the best way. I use the the red hi temp stuff from work but the same idea.

    Some headers just need a gasket for some reason or they leak.
    I have had better luck with some gaskets compared to others too.
    For me the Mr Gasket Ultra Seals seem to hold the bolts tight better as well as seal pretty well too.



    Hands down the worst are any of the carbon composite stuff. Maybe fine for manifolds buy they suck as a header gasket. JMO



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    Get the flanges flat and use hi- temp rtv...I prefer the copper permatex stuff. The key is to apply it to both the head and the header flange, the assemble before it skins over.

    Gaskets don't work well on headers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Yeah the gasket is the real cuplrpit on headers. If your headers will seal with just silicone it is the best way. I use the the red hi temp stuff from work but the same idea.

    Some headers just need a gasket for some reason or they leak.
    I have had better luck with some gaskets compared to others too.
    For me the Mr Gasket Ultra Seals seem to hold the bolts tight better as well as seal pretty well too.



    Hands down the worst are any of the carbon composite stuff. Maybe fine for manifolds buy they suck as a header gasket. JMO
    yeah I wouldn't do that with aluminum logs, but steel headers thats the way to go. I used those mesh composites on my water jacketed tri y's ...... They are glued with rtr high temp black now!

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    Running a Fel Pro Header gasket. It's just 3 of them that come loose. You'd figure for what they cost they would come with a lock washer instead of a flat washer
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNYoungblood View Post
    Running a Fel Pro Header gasket. It's just 3 of them that come loose. You'd figure for what they cost they would come with a lock washer instead of a flat washer
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    You can buy header bolts that already have the wedge lock washers on them.
    LINK: Wedge lock header bolts

    The very best locking header bolt bar none is what was sold as Breslins, but now I think Percy's sells them.





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    I got these studs "thinking" they were better than a bolt and easy to pull and put the headers on but gotta tighten em after every run. I run bolts on the lake boat and can go all year without touching em. And I really don't wont to mess with silicone on the headers if I can help it. Might get sum SS lock washers and give that a try !!!!! Thanks guys for the help
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    I've been running the same arp header studs for 12 years. with the flats. mine never come loose. and they are way easy for pulling the headers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    It doesn't help.

    Has alot to do with the gasket you use. With the right gasket, and tightening them AFTER they cool off a couple times and they stay pretty good.

    Best thing I have ever found
    NORD-LOCK Lock Washer, Stl, Fits 3/8 In, 0.1 Th, Pk200 - Lock Washers - 5RUY8|10.3-1081 - Grainger Industrial Supply

    X2.....Used gaskets are the best, never need re-torque and the price is right. lol Mine have been reused more times than my head gaskets and i don"t have lock washers. I have installed my fair share of headers over the years and it"s all about the cold re torque it might take 3-4 times with a new gasket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bp298 View Post
    I've been running the same arp header studs for 12 years. with the flats. mine never come loose. and they are way easy for pulling the headers...

    That's why I got them . Seen BP was running them and just new that was tha shit
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