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    Is there a true synthetic oil out there ? after turning the bottle of Royal Purple around and finding that it is a base motor oil with syn. additives ( might as well say mineral based oil ) Then jack the price. Valvoline VR1 synthetic (race only) only to find out valvoline states it can be used in any vehicle. and it is about $5.00 a quart. What gives, you add a little syn. material to your oil and state it it synthetic, then jack the price or not.
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    Uncle Bob is the authority on oil around here. Surprised he has not said something yet. Must be taking his nap that old phucker. Ya it is hard to tell what is what. If it is called a Syn blend all it takes is a drop of syn in it. In my shop my normal oil change oil is Kendall syn blend. It is 50% syn and has lots of additives in it. Said it is ok for flat tappets. When I want a good syn oil it is Amsoil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    Uncle Bob is the authority on oil around here. Surprised he has not said something yet. Must be taking his nap that old phucker. Ya it is hard to tell what is what. If it is called a Syn blend all it takes is a drop of syn in it. In my shop my normal oil change oil is Kendall syn blend. It is 50% syn and has lots of additives in it. Said it is ok for flat tappets. When I want a good syn oil it is Amsoil.
    Evil..here's one I heard a while back, Once you use Syn. Oil it penetriats the metal and other oils won't cling...what do you think?
    I think BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gone Green View Post
    Evil..here's one I heard a while back, Once you use Syn. Oil it penetriats the metal and other oils won't cling...what do you think?
    I think BS
    I agree BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBS933 View Post
    Is there a true synthetic oil out there ? after turning the bottle of Royal Purple around and finding that it is a base motor oil with syn. additives ( might as well say mineral based oil ) Then jack the price. Valvoline VR1 synthetic (race only) only to find out valvoline states it can be used in any vehicle. and it is about $5.00 a quart. What gives, you add a little syn. material to your oil and state it it synthetic, then jack the price or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    Uncle Bob is the authority on oil around here. Surprised he has not said something yet. Must be taking his nap that old phucker. Ya it is hard to tell what is what. If it is called a Syn blend all it takes is a drop of syn in it. In my shop my normal oil change oil is Kendall syn blend. It is 50% syn and has lots of additives in it. Said it is ok for flat tappets. When I want a good syn oil it is Amsoil.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gone Green View Post
    Evil..here's one I heard a while back, Once you use Syn. Oil it penetriats the metal and other oils won't cling...what do you think?
    I think BS
    I told you in an earlier thread in the dyno forums that the RP HPS is not synthetic.
    If you think you can buy a TRUE synthetic oil for under 10.00 a qt, dream on, I don't give shit what the label says. Thanks to Castrols advertisement case a few years back, the word synthetic ahs virtually no meaning anymore. Same with word "racing" Its just a word. There is no end to the crap being sold as synthetic, and the belief that it good stuff.
    If you are looking for a true synthetic, and/or a true racing oil, you better know who you are dealing with, or do you home work.
    Some companies like Torco, and Amsoil, and Redline play it above board. Torco is by far the most open and honest of them all. Amsoil and Redline aren't hiding anything, they just aren't waving flags in your face. But they all are very clear about what is there racing oils, what is their performance oils, and what is a street oil for your daily driver. If your buy the wrong oil from any of them, its because you didn't bother to look at what you were buying.
    Mobil is a little less open and clear, but the info is there FROM THEM, if you bother to dig for it.

    The rest are simply playing word games with you, and its all perfectly legal

    The only thing that attaches itself to the metal are chlorinated olefins or AFMT like Prolong, Motor Up, ProTec, Maxilube, Durolube, and the other Saturday infommercials. Use at your own peril.



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    Default What about Lucas oil synthetic oil

    Is it a true synthetic oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosscat_40475 View Post
    Is it a true synthetic oil?
    Ever notice that they split their oils into groups? High Performance but has the word "racing" on the label and says fine for everyday use.
    Marine that has one conventional and one Semi
    and their RACING ONLY.
    Which are you referring to????



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    I told you in an earlier thread in the dyno forums that the RP HPS is not synthetic.
    If you think you can buy a TRUE synthetic oil for under 10.00 a qt, dream on, I don't give shit what the label says. Thanks to Castrols advertisement case a few years back, the word synthetic ahs virtually no meaning anymore. Same with word "racing" Its just a word. There is no end to the crap being sold as synthetic, and the belief that it good stuff.
    If you are looking for a true synthetic, and/or a true racing oil, you better know who you are dealing with, or do you home work.
    Some companies like Torco, and Amsoil, and Redline play it above board. Torco is by far the most open and honest of them all. Amsoil and Redline aren't hiding anything, they just aren't waving flags in your face. But they all are very clear about what is there racing oils, what is their performance oils, and what is a street oil for your daily driver. If your buy the wrong oil from any of them, its because you didn't bother to look at what you were buying.
    Mobil is a little less open and clear, but the info is there FROM THEM, if you bother to dig for it.

    The rest are simply playing word games with you, and its all perfectly legal

    The only thing that attaches itself to the metal are chlorinated olefins or AFMT like Prolong, Motor Up, ProTec, Maxilube, Durolube, and the other Saturday infommercials. Use at your own peril.
    You sure did Bob, and Thanks for that. Whether I stay the course with my oil or change, I am doing a lot of research to understand all the crap that goes with all the different oil companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBS933 View Post
    You sure did Bob, and Thanks for that. Whether I stay the course with my oil or change, I am doing a lot of research to understand all the crap that goes with all the different oil companies.
    Good luck. It only took me about 5 years to get up to speed, and I had the benefit of the guys in the labs at Chevron USA and Conoco Los Angeles Refinery to answer any questions I had. Love to pass some of it on, but after awhile you get tired of being told you're full of shit buy somebody that is hard pressed to spell the word OIL.

    Start here and face the reality of the industry. It only gets more confusing from here.

    Amsoil - Synthetics Best oil

    Just to make things even more confusing after you read this, since that was written, Amsoil has jumped on the band wagon as well and their new XL line of oils is not 100% PAO oil. It is a blend of hydrocrack petroleum oils and PAO. Its also a lot cheaper. So the last part that ALL Amsoil oils are 100% synthetic is no longer true. Its what they have to do to compete with the less than desirable companies that are selling shit as synthetic.



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    Since I live very close to Teague Marine I keep it simple. They carry Amsoil & Kendell on the shelf. I'm using Kendell. They only carry 1 brand of oil filter which I use, nope I'm not gonna open that can of worms by saying what it is

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    There is lots of stuff on the web on synthetics. I have always run Amsoil Dominator Racing Oil in all my engines. High in zinc and excellent additives on a syn base. Teague recommends Amsoil if you want to spend the extra money, if don't want to pay Amsoil $'s recommends Kendall Racing Oil. IMHO there are few real syn based oils that have excellent additives/zinc like Amsoil Dominator. I know when my engines come apart there is little wear and roller lifters/rockers are always in good shape which points to; 1. very well built engines with quality parts that are running happy (no detonation and good fuel). 2. Proper maintenance intervals. 3. Good lubricants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 74Bonneville View Post
    Since I live very close to Teague Marine I keep it simple. They carry Amsoil & Kendell on the shelf. I'm using Kendell. They only carry 1 brand of oil filter which I use, nope I'm not gonna open that can of worms by saying what it is
    Kendall is OK. At least they don't call it a synthetic or a "racing oil" and call it what it is.
    No secret on the filter. That's your choice to make. Its your engine,



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